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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: March 16, 2024, 09:52:11 PM »
« edited: March 16, 2024, 09:56:24 PM by All Along The Watchtower »

All of these Republican Gentiles lining up to condemn a Jewish Senator’s criticism of Israeli’s current government = not a good look!

EDIT: And it’s Chuck Schumer ffs. Between him and Biden, Democratic leadership is unusually pro-Israel. Losing Schumer’s support just shows how off the rails the current Israeli government and the political culture in that country has become.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2024, 03:06:23 PM »
« Edited: March 18, 2024, 03:17:13 PM by All Along The Watchtower »

If the United States is making its aid to an ally in the middle of an existential war conditional on that country ousting its leader, then the United States is not actually an ally to that nation.

Israel is not a treaty ally of the US, correct.  Well OK, it’s a “Major Non-NATO Ally”, but then again, so is Qatar.

You know who is a treaty ally of the US? Turkey. Thus as things stand, America has more of an obligation to the country led by Erdogan than the one led by Netanyahu.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2024, 03:14:51 PM »

Also, to the extent that the destruction of Gaza is “existential” for Israel (it isn’t actually), it’s because Israeli policy has been to provide security for West Bank settlers at the expense of Israelis living near Gaza. The scale of the massacre and mayhem on October 7th was preventable.

Now, after tens of thousands of Palestinians are dead, there are more Israelis talking about resettling Gaza. Oh sure, they might be “illegal” settlements. Initially.
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2024, 03:20:03 PM »
« Edited: March 18, 2024, 03:24:42 PM by All Along The Watchtower »

This seems like a very reasonabe middle ground to take in lieu of just ending our alliance with Israel.

No country should have an absolutely unconditional alliance with us.  If we choose to ally with them, it should be because we gain a benefit from them or at least broadly support their actions.

If we no longer benefit from or support the actions of Israel, one choice would be to end the alliance.
But a less rash choice would be to suggests that we will end the alliance unless they start taking actions we can once again support.
And when it is overwhelmingly obvious that one leader will never take actions that we can support, it is reasonable to suggest that the alliance cannot continue while that leader is in power.


The Israeli government rejects the US’s stated policy goal, which is the creation of an independent Palestinian state. That’s a massively important disagreement.

But let’s be real, they are just expecting Trump to return and give them a full blank check (again). Because “Genocide Joe” and the Democrats are insufficiently pro-Israel, apparently.
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