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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: September 29, 2022, 11:23:05 AM »

What Huq said is indefensible but rather tame compared to what is business as usual for the “natural party of government” in the UK.

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With no sway over the media, unpopularity in the Labour party, and a passionately
righteous and therefore easily bamboozled base, the avowedly anti-racist left are the only segment of mainstream politics without an umbrella. As a result, they are just one mistake, bad joke or poorly worded statement away from disgrace and destruction. The last thing any anti-racist would do is roll out their ethnic minority colleagues to run interference for them. So, when the faux-outrage machine kicks in, decades of anti-racism work and hard-earned reputations evaporate in a blink of an eye or the accidental liking of a social media post. This renders actual anti-racism a political risk, one with almost no sign of potential for reward.

As it showed with its diverse leadership contest, in which all of the candidates endorsed the Rwanda deportation policy, the Conservative party is a global leader at the optical illusion of appearing progressive on race while actually being alarmingly regressive. Conservatives are playing Grand Theft Auto while the left of the Labour party plays Tetris. The liberal belief that diversity would have a mellowing or eradicating effect on racism has proven to be a costly fallacy. Despite its necessity and virtuous nature, diversity is no substitute for genuine anti-racism: standing up for ethnic minorities when they are attacked, standing by them in moments of need, and fighting for their rights.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/29/rupa-huq-wrong-left-singled-out-racist-kwasi-kwarteng

Something something double standards etc
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2023, 11:30:31 PM »

Its all gone a bit quiet on the Sue Grey front, maybe it really was a non-story after all?

Just the way she wants it I imagine.

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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2023, 01:41:18 PM »

I continue to be baffled by all the people who have made it perfectly clear just how much they despise the Labour Party and then act shocked and outraged at even the mildest form of hostility directed back at them.

I get that this entire phenomenon is necessarily exaggerated by those who are Very Online, but I also can’t help but suspect that some people are acting (however unconsciously) almost as if the UK has American-style primary elections, which can only lead to misunderstanding and disappointment. Admittedly, that might be a stretch on my part.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2023, 02:38:36 PM »

a total surrender of nearly everything Labour historically stood for to an extent not seen since the Blair years.

Well yes, hardline anti-Communism doesn't make sense in a post-1980s world.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2024, 03:01:47 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2024, 03:12:53 PM by All Along The Watchtower »

Posters on TwitterX dot com have been ridiculing Reeves for saying Labour is ”now the pro-worker, pro-business party.”

It seems a disproportionate number of Very Online left-wingers are LARPing as Communists, because “pro-worker, pro-business” just sounds like social democracy? What am I missing?

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2024, 11:27:32 AM »

I think I finished reading the above exchange knowing less about Owen Jones than I did at the beginning.

Well, he’s definitely not Owen Smith. I still know that!
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2024, 01:03:19 AM »

Missed this at the time:

For those interested, David Lammy has just dropped an essay on the next Labour government’s foreign policy, progressive clichéism.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-kingdom/case-progressive-realism-david-lammy?

“Progressive Realism”

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