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« on: October 02, 2016, 06:27:52 PM »
« edited: October 02, 2016, 06:30:47 PM by PR »

OK, can we stop with this now? It's clear no one is being convinced and I don't think more holier-than-thou posturing and creative name-calling is going to change things. It's especially silly considering that, if you want to argue for voting on purely rational grounds, you will lose. Pretty much everybody who has studied the issue agrees that the only "rational" vote is not to vote at all. So we've got to accept that anyone's reasons for voting are fundamentally emotional. That doesn't mean there isn't a right choice to an election (and yes, in 2016, this choice is clearly Hillary), but it means it makes no sense to call people "selfish" or "special snowflakes" when they are just doing what they think is right.

I think there's a quite a bit of room between "voting on purely rational grounds" and "not voting for the only candidate who has any chance of stopping a psychopathic admirer of despotic regimes from gaining power", but that's just me.

Regardless, the world doesn't revolve around me, you, or anyone else's concept of an ideal candidate. Sometimes, we have to suck it up and do something that we may not necessarily want to do for the greater good - or, in this case, so that the entire world isn't burned to the ground. This isn't hard thing to figure out.

And for those who say "the lesser of two evils is still evil": even if that applied in this case (and I'm not convinced that it does; Clinton may be immensely frustrating but Trump is unambiguously horrific to the point of being unthinkable) the principle of triage demands that the more urgent wound/danger/threat to the body (or in this election, the world) that can potentially be successfully treated ought to take priority. And the priority in this election is recognizing that the world cannot survive a Donald Trump Presidency and act accordingly. I'm not joking.  He's absolutely unprecedented in American history, and seeing as the United States is the most powerful country in the world, and the President of the United States is the single most powerful person in the world...well, the conclusion draws itself.

America and the world can (and in all likelihood, will) survive a Clinton Presidency, even if either or both suffer to one degree or another. And even granted all of that, there will still likely be some undeniably positive things about a Clinton Presidency. None of this can be said about Trump, certainly not with any degree of confidence.

What I'm saying here is that I'd rather vote for the person who at least attempts to put out the fire - regardless of how ineptly or corruptly - rather than the person who has repeatedly promised to pour gasoline on it. But apparently a lot of people disagree. *shrug*
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