Survey Atlasia National HQ -Nyman, DC (Archiving May Polls)

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wow, I didn't imagine RPPers were in a so bad shape. I just hope Tmth will manage to get elected.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I don't know how accurate this poll was. DA results seem very strange, for example, considering they claim to be the most reformist party.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wow, many surprising results !

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wow, seems that the left is in far better shape than predicted.

Eraserhead, you MUST run again.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wow, seems that the left is in far better shape than predicted.

Eraserhead, you MUST run again.

What? The Atlasia left has never been in bad shape. The Populares are half of what they used to be as well. Eraserhead or anyone else will win this race in a route.

In whatever shape the Pops are, the Northeast is still supposed to be their country. I and most of other people have considered last October as a fluke.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wow, seems that the left is in far better shape than predicted.

Eraserhead, you MUST run again.

What? The Atlasia left has never been in bad shape. The Populares are half of what they used to be as well. Eraserhead or anyone else will win this race in a route.

In whatever shape the Pops are, the Northeast is still supposed to be their country. I and most of other people have considered last October as a fluke.

Anyone who pays attention would know they have lost a lot.

Did you read my post ? I know the Populares are not (thanks God) the massive zombie machine they used to be, but 1) this is pretty recent and thus not necessarily unrecoverable, 2) they are still by far Northeast's first party.

An amusing thing about Atlasia is how people are always claiming for no reason that a determinated party is dying or is bound to die. You guys thought the RPP was dead in early 2010, when the UDL appeared people started talking about the JCP's demise (and yet they were the only party to take 2 seats in the Senate elections), and now just because they lost several races everybody thinks the Populares are fading away too. The reality is that, since 2009 and the establishment of a solid party system, big parties almost nevery die, and when they do, like the DA, it's usually by suicide.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Besides the privilege of incumbency, I don't really see what other advantage Eraserhead has for February. The populares hold a plurality, the right leads the left by 5 voters, and they could be more eager to vote in order to avoid something like February to happen again. History is maybe irrelevant, but maths are not.

And while I could imagine Eraserhead doing a decent score in NE due to the Populares' loss of influence, the fact he actually won (and by 1 vote !) was a fluke in that it was due mostly to poor turnout.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Besides the privilege of incumbency, I don't really see what other advantage Eraserhead has for February. The populares hold a plurality, the right leads the left by 5 voters, and they could be more eager to vote in order to avoid something like February to happen again. History is maybe irrelevant, but maths are not.

And while I could imagine Eraserhead doing a decent score in NE due to the Populares' loss of influence, the fact he actually won (and by 1 vote !) was a fluke in that it was due mostly to poor turnout.

If you go by pure numbers, yes, but the voters they have in the NE aren't exactly reliable. Inactive voters are why the Populares numbers have shrunk over the course of the last few elections.

You are probably right. But inactive voters can "wake up"  at any time, and two electoral cycles don't always indicate a trend.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The only reason the Senate election was (barely) close is because I and some other people PMed a dozen of zombies to vote for Barnes. Still, it still wasn't enough to overcome the Populares. They drowned the election with zombies, and just to make sure everything goes fine, Winston convinced Annie to invalidate her vote. Without us, Barnes would have been literally crushed.

After February, the Populares' stranglehold couldn't have been overcome in any possible way. The only thing to do was either to sit and wait for them to be bored of their little empire, or to leave the region and go where one could be useful. Kalwejt, Barnes, Hashemite and me merely acknoledged the situation. I'm sorry, but I'm not really fond of playing the part of the perennial opponent.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Populares don't control the Northeast Assembly anymore. You guys should have stayed.....

I really said everything there :

I'd like to adress Northeasterners, all those who, directly or indirectly, in one way or another, have contributed to make the region what it is nowadays. All those who, despite not being trolls, have followed the troll machine now know where it leads. You lived in one of the most active region, with an Assembly full of people devoted to their job. The Assembly was a heart of innovation and interest in the entire Atlasia, you could be proud of being a Northeasterners.

Then came Hamilton. Then came Libertas and Segway, and all the other trolls. And some of you said "why not ?". You voted for people who were intent to put the region under their total control, but you supported them because you bought to their "anti-establishment" rhetoric, or simply because you agreed with their political beliefs. You gave them the control of every single office in Atlasia. You had, in Barnes, Hashemite, Kalwejt and myself four people who had worked hard to make the region better : all of us left the region and/or became inactive.

And now, you find yourself in a dead region, with a fail Governor that just resigned because he couldn't just do his job properly. Think a lot, and pray not to commit this mistake again. You can't trust the trolls that stole the region and then let it die as soon as they didn't need it. Pray to find someone like Barnes, someone like Kalwejt to give the region a new boost. Until you won't find any, you'll have a pretty bad time ahead. Have fun, my friends ! I don't know if any of those you kicked out shamelessly will accept to come back some day and give you a second chance. I, for one, won't.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The only reason the Senate election was (barely) close is because I and some other people PMed a dozen of zombies to vote for Barnes.

Didn't you leave the Northeast because of zombies?

Indeed. If I had been as effective as the populares were at the time, we would have had a fair election and Barnes would have won. At the time, I felt like I had to do something to save the Northeast, but this was and will remain the only time when I engaged in such practices.

I don't like to talk so much about the past, and I know the Populares have changed a lot since February. I won't pursue a crusade against anyone. But when someone says that what happened to Northeast was my fault, I feel deeply offended.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Nobody has said the problems in the NE are your fault. (maybe a translation issue. ). I and others did criticize your counterproductive response and inneffective strategy to deal with it.

People say that hadn't us left the Northeast everything would have been soo fine and it would have been the most pluralist, nice and active region on the Earth. Well, I was there at the time, and it just wasn't that way. Now it seems that things are (slowly) changing : fine then. But don't blame me for not having waited for that to happen, almost one year after.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ok, all right. To put it in another way : there was no "strategy" to adopt at all. After the February elections, there was nothing more I could do to change things. I've tried harder than I could even imagine, so hard that it left me angry for several months : I failed. Eventually, I felt so discouraged that I became totally inactive in Atlasia until June. It was time to think about myself, my own satisfaction, and focus on other things.
Did the Northeast suffer from my departure, as well as those of Barnes, Hashemite and Kalwejt ? Probably. I don't say that to boast, but I think we all were useful to that region. But in any case, there is nothing we could realistically have done to prevent the region from becoming what it became. Or at least, nothing worth its price in stress, bitterness and frustration.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ok, all right. To put it in another way : there was no "strategy" to adopt at all. After the February elections, there was nothing more I could do to change things. I've tried harder than I could even imagine, so hard that it left me angry for several months : I failed. Eventually, I felt so discouraged that I became totally inactive in Atlasia until June. It was time to think about myself, my own satisfaction, and focus on other things.
Did the Northeast suffer from my departure, as well as those of Barnes, Hashemite and Kalwejt ? Probably. I don't say that to boast, but I think we all were useful to that region. But in any case, there is nothing we could realistically have done to prevent the region from becoming what it became. Or at least, nothing worth its price in stress, bitterness and frustration.

In the Populares defense, they were trying to do in the Northeast exactly what the JCP had done in the Pacific. So I think it's slightly hypocritical for everyone to be anti-Populares for stacking the Northeast and not be anti-JCP for stacking the Pacific.

Whatever happened in the Pacific, it happened four damn years ago. I can only regret that (but didn't the RPP do the same in the South ?). As you can see our region is now moving forward, and everyone, comprised a certain Popularis, has his say there.
As for the populares, they seem to be moving forward as well, even though it's more due to the fact their worst elements were banned. If they don't let idiots like Wormyguy, Rosetta, SPC or Morgan lead them, they have fair chances to become a decent party. Exactly like the RPP once they got rid of DWTL.

[Antonio the Sixth]

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4. I've no idea, but bgwah said most of JCPers were also Pacificans (which, on a quick look, I'd tend to agree, look at Alcon, Ebowed, Meeker, etc, etc...). So the comparison can still stand.
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And if discussing annoys you so much, you can simply stop.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Pretty weird results. Eraserhead has a 67% disapproval, yet defeats any right-winger ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Pretty weird results. Eraserhead has a 67% disapproval, yet defeats any right-winger ?

I think that says a lot more about the right wingers in the Northeast than it does about Eraser

I'd think it rather says a lot about the accuracy of polls in Atlasia.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I still don't see the results.

[Antonio the Sixth]

At-Large Senator Approval Ratings
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=131511.0


How have your Senators been performing their jobs?
Approve- Senator ahduke99 (RPP-SC)   18 (13.6%)
Disapprove - Senator ahduke99 (RPP-SC)   8 (6.1%)
Approve - Senator Bacon King (JCP-LA)    9 (6.8%)
Disapprove - Senator Bacon King (JCP-LA)   17 (12.9%)
Approve - Senator Dallasfan65 (POP-MA)   18 (13.6%)
Disapprove - Senator Dallasfan65 (POP-MA)   10 (7.6%)
Approve - Senator Antonio V (UDL-HI)   11 (8.3%)
Disapprove -Senator Antonio V (UDL-HI)   15 (11.4%)
Approve - Senator Lief (JCP-VT)   11 (8.3%)
Disapprove - Senator Lief (JCP-VT)   15 (11.4%)

 
Total Voters: 28


ahduke99
Approve 69%
Disapprove 31%

Bacon King
Approve 36%
Disapprove 64%

Dallasfan65
Approve 64%
Disapprove 36%

Antonio
Approve 42%
Disapprove 58%

Lief
Approve 42%
Disapprove 58%

I don't use to decry any result I don't like, but it seems rather evident that this poll is strongly biased (in the statistical sense of the term).

[Antonio the Sixth]

I am refering to this poll in particular, not to all your polls. It seems rather evident that right-wingers are overrepresented in the sample. Of course it's by no way your fault.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I am refering to this poll in particular, not to all your polls. It seems rather evident that right-wingers are overrepresented in the sample. Of course it's by no way your fault.

Marokai often had slightly negative approvals. So you and Lief are in line with tradition for hard core liberal Senators. My polls tend to show that extremes do poorly but the extreme left is more popular then the extreme right. Also, we need more polls to see whether this is a consisten trend or a turnout issue as you say. We'll know in a few months.

I can understand why I and Lief have negative approval (not to say it's deserved, of course). But just look at HappyWarrior, Bgwah or Bacon King. And if you cite inactivity to explain BK's disapproval, just look at Dallasfan, who is just slightly less inactive and has reverse ratings.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I am refering to this poll in particular, not to all your polls. It seems rather evident that right-wingers are overrepresented in the sample. Of course it's by no way your fault.

Marokai often had slightly negative approvals. So you and Lief are in line with tradition for hard core liberal Senators. My polls tend to show that extremes do poorly but the extreme left is more popular then the extreme right. Also, we need more polls to see whether this is a consisten trend or a turnout issue as you say. We'll know in a few months.

I can understand why I and Lief have negative approval (not to say it's deserved, of course). But just look at HappyWarrior, Bgwah or Bacon King. And if you cite inactivity to explain BK's disapproval, just look at Dallasfan, who is just slightly less inactive and has reverse ratings.

     Dallasfan has made 14 posts in the Senate in the last two weeks to 2 by BK. Not to mention that Bacon King has a long-term pattern of inactivity, not least of which was when he disappeared for three weeks & could have been kicked out of the Senate were it not for the realization that the relevant clause of the OSPR was in contravention of the Constitution.

     While I do think Dallasfan ought to be more active than he is, it strikes me as slightly disingenuous to compare his inactivity to Bacon King's inactivity.

There's no doubt BK is by far the most inactive Senator, but I guess you have to be a Senator to see what "inactivity" means. Of course it's only a subjective feeling and it's not meant to criticize anyone, but I guess assisting to the debates (and especially the debates on substantial bills, not about renaming an airport) is the best way to judge someone's activity. In my little experience in the Senate, I think I could rank our Senators in 3 categories : there are those who take an important part in most debates (NC Yankee, AHDuke, me), those who make important occasional contributions (Bgwah, Snowguy, Happywarrior, Lief), and those who almost don't contribute (Eraserhead, BK, Dallasfan). Again, that's not to criticize anyone : it's just exposing my feeling and my experience.

[Antonio the Sixth]

At least maybe now righties will stop saying that leftists are just a bunch of hacks who vote for their candidate in any circumstance...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Combined Senate:                 Approve:        Disapprove:        Net:
Senator Kalwejt (JCP-MN)         100%                  0%              100%
Senator NC Yankee (RPP-NC)      80%                 20%               60%
Senator AHDuke99 (RPP-SC)       70%                 30%               40%
Senator shua (POP-MA)               70%                 30%               40%
Senator bgwah (JCP-WA)            67%                 33%               34%
Senator Antonio V (UDL-HI)         65%                 35%               30%
Senator Oakvale (JCP-DE)            55%                45%               10%
Senator HappyWarrior (IND-MD)  50%                50%                  0%
Senator RowanBrandon (RPP-NJ) 50%                50%                  0%
Senator Snowguy716 (JCP-MN)    42%                58%               -16%

My numbers aren't stratospheric, but they seem much improved compared to previous polls. Looks like doing nothing is the best way to get popular.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Combined Senate:              Approve:          Disapprove:    Net:
Sen. NC Yankee                   100%                  0%              100%
Sen. Fuzzybigfoot                100%                  0%              100%
Sen. AHDuke99                      69%                 31%               38%
Sen. shua                               67%                 33%               34%
Sen. Antonio V                        58%                 42%               16%
Sen. officepark                        57%                 43%               14%
Sen. Oakvale                          48%                  52%               -4%
Sen. Napoleon                        43%                  57%             -14%
Sen. bgwah                            40%                  60%              -20%
Sen. Snowguy716                   27%                 73%              -46%

So I'm not in the "good half" of the Senate. That's good to see...

How in the world are Bgwah and Archangel unpopular though ?