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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2009, 12:11:46 PM »
Well, they are probably the nicest criminals of modern times. Though I really don't understand Musulin's purposes... Huh

Quote from: Benwah on November 20, 2009, 11:17:40 AM
Oh and, last news:

The Robin Wood, was more of a Robin Flat perhaps. He has been found in a flat in Melun, lent by one of his friend. Anyways, i count on media to give all details about it now...

Hood Wink
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2009, 12:41:25 PM »
I don't admire them. I just don't find them immoral and therefore don't see any reason to hate them.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2009, 12:55:09 PM »
Quote from: Benwah on November 20, 2009, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 20, 2009, 12:41:25 PM
I don't admire them. I just don't find them immoral and therefore don't see any reason to hate them.

Well, you consider stealing not immoral?

And the other one fled the justice system before his judgment, i don't see the point.

No one really harmed the society. Anyways, the adjective "nice" was just ironical (saying "the less unnice" would probably fit better).
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2009, 01:09:41 PM »
Quote from: Benwah on November 20, 2009, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 20, 2009, 12:55:09 PM
Quote from: Benwah on November 20, 2009, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 20, 2009, 12:41:25 PM
I don't admire them. I just don't find them immoral and therefore don't see any reason to hate them.

Well, you consider stealing not immoral?

And the other one fled the justice system before his judgment, i don't see the point.

No one really harmed the society.

You can't run justice like that!

Oh, damn it...
I never said I wanted justice to be ruled like that. Is it forbidden not to hate every criminal ?!?!?
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2009, 02:19:28 PM »
Quote from: Benwah on November 20, 2009, 01:35:19 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 20, 2009, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: Benwah on November 20, 2009, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 20, 2009, 12:55:09 PM
Quote from: Benwah on November 20, 2009, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 20, 2009, 12:41:25 PM
I don't admire them. I just don't find them immoral and therefore don't see any reason to hate them.

Well, you consider stealing not immoral?

And the other one fled the justice system before his judgment, i don't see the point.

No one really harmed the society.

You can't run justice like that!

Oh, damn it...
I never said I wanted justice to be ruled like that. Is it forbidden not to hate every criminal ?!?!?

Come on, wasn't speaking of hatred, i haven't for any of them...

I was just saying that as every guys who break the law they have to get some consequences, that no matter the importance of what they did, they shouldn't be indulged just because it's less important than other things, that what they have done remain immoral.

But yes, we may just agree on these generalities...

Indeed, we do. Tongue
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2009, 11:33:31 AM »
BTW, Ségo is a mad woman. She proved it once again.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2009, 12:52:43 PM »
Quote from: Benwah on November 21, 2009, 12:50:42 PM

Didn't see the news today, i missed something?

It's lasting since some days but I didn't make the remark before. The stuff with Peillon...
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #57 on: November 28, 2009, 05:17:13 PM »
I put it in another thread but immediately realized it was totally off-topic. So :

Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 28, 2009, 05:15:45 PM
BTW, guess which system Sarko wants to use for election of the newly-created "territorial councilors ? FPTP !
How democratic ! How fair ! How intelligent and elaborated ! See how this guy cares about the fact the people's opinion is represented ! But probably he doesn't even know who Condorcet, Hare or Sainte-Lagüe are.

FPTP=evil.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2009, 03:26:46 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2009, 03:29:02 PM by Northeast Representative Antonio V »
Quote from: Benwah on November 30, 2009, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on November 28, 2009, 08:50:21 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 28, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
I put it in another thread but immediately realized it was totally off-topic. So :

Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 28, 2009, 05:15:45 PM
BTW, guess which system Sarko wants to use for election of the newly-created "territorial councilors ? FPTP !
How democratic ! How fair ! How intelligent and elaborated ! See how this guy cares about the fact the people's opinion is represented ! But probably he doesn't even know who Condorcet, Hare or Sainte-Lagüe are.

FPTP=evil.

Old news, I highlighted that the day he proposed it. And the only reason he wants FPTP is because the UMP would win.

I don't know if I posted my rant of the 'territorial reform' bullsh**t on here of I posted it on a French forum. Eh.

Nah nah, you did here. Antonio sometimes comes after the battle. Tongue

True. I probably just wasn't around there when you posted this.

However, insisting isn't bad : FPTP=evil and undemocratic.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2009, 02:42:26 AM »
Quote from: Benwah on November 30, 2009, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 30, 2009, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: Benwah on November 30, 2009, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on November 28, 2009, 08:50:21 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 28, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
I put it in another thread but immediately realized it was totally off-topic. So :

Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on November 28, 2009, 05:15:45 PM
BTW, guess which system Sarko wants to use for election of the newly-created "territorial councilors ? FPTP !
How democratic ! How fair ! How intelligent and elaborated ! See how this guy cares about the fact the people's opinion is represented ! But probably he doesn't even know who Condorcet, Hare or Sainte-Lagüe are.

FPTP=evil.

Old news, I highlighted that the day he proposed it. And the only reason he wants FPTP is because the UMP would win.

I don't know if I posted my rant of the 'territorial reform' bullsh**t on here of I posted it on a French forum. Eh.

Nah nah, you did here. Antonio sometimes comes after the battle. Tongue

True. I probably just wasn't around there when you posted this.

However, insisting isn't bad : FPTP=evil and undemocratic.

Yep, and well, this is not the thread here, but if left is enough smart to well use it, it could be a working argument against UMP in the régionales.

Guess what : they won't be smart enough !
...
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2009, 01:31:30 PM »
Quote from: Benwah on December 01, 2009, 08:37:41 AM
Hey Antonio, are you in MJS btw? You could give them the idea...

When I was younger, I wanted to be in it so much... Now I lost interests in political militantism.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2009, 04:46:44 PM »
Can't stop laughing...

Ben, t'es trop fort ! Grin
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2009, 04:55:50 PM »
Quote from: Benwah Coorciayh on December 11, 2009, 04:48:40 PM
Je sais pas comment je dois le prendre, mais merci. Smiley

T'inquiète pas, tout le monde t'aime bien ici. Wink
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #63 on: January 20, 2010, 01:28:17 PM »
Quote from: Bon écoute, non, [wagon] arrête, hiérarchise... on January 20, 2010, 01:07:48 PM
On a side note, I'm surprised that some people can't pretend to RSA.

How can this just be possible ? I thought that first the RMI, and then the RSA, was precisely for people who hadn't any income... Huh
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #64 on: January 20, 2010, 02:02:36 PM »
Quote from: Bon écoute, non, [wagon] arrête, hiérarchise... on January 20, 2010, 01:58:42 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on January 20, 2010, 01:28:17 PM
Quote from: Bon écoute, non, [wagon] arrête, hiérarchise... on January 20, 2010, 01:07:48 PM
On a side note, I'm surprised that some people can't pretend to RSA.

How can this just be possible ? I thought that first the RMI, and then the RSA, was precisely for people who hadn't any income... Huh

Oh, just heard it was because RSA takes into accounts the incomes of the household and not of the individual, then that would be people in households that have income that can't pretend to it. Dunno what's the threshold for an household not to get RSA though, but I would be surprised this is very high.

Wait, that means the €600 and few are not for one person, but for  ONE HOUSEHOLD !! Shocked Damn, this is really scandalous...


Quote from: Bon écoute, non, [wagon] arrête, hiérarchise... on January 20, 2010, 01:59:26 PM
Oh, and, if Villepin isn't condemned, then he will run, he even spoke of creating a new party.

Villepin is a clown. He won't achieve anything except dividing the anti-Sarko vote...
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #65 on: January 20, 2010, 03:27:38 PM »
Well, if you have no problem living with it, then it's a good thing for you. Wink I personally would have really big difficulties to figure myself in such situation, but I guess it's mostly a subjective thing.

Quote from: Bon écoute, non, [wagon] arrête, hiérarchise... on January 20, 2010, 02:45:27 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on January 20, 2010, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: Bon écoute, non, [wagon] arrête, hiérarchise... on January 20, 2010, 01:59:26 PM
Oh, and, if Villepin isn't condemned, then he will run, he even spoke of creating a new party.

Villepin is a clown. He won't achieve anything except dividing the anti-Sarko vote...

Just that! That would be something. I'm not interested by Villepin, just noticing his acts. I'm on Ségolène. Grin

Oh, don't worry : I have too much esteem for you to even think you could be a Villepin supporter. Grin
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #66 on: January 25, 2010, 02:17:58 PM »
Sarko on TF1 right now.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #67 on: January 25, 2010, 02:43:22 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2010, 02:44:54 PM by Northeast Representative Antonio V »

Remember that the "panel" has been chosen by the journalists of TF1... Roll Eyes

...

Again with the bullsh*t "travailler plus pour gagner plus" dogma.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #68 on: January 25, 2010, 03:08:05 PM »
Sad to see that the only one who seemed a bit polemic was totally unable to put strong arguments (and he could have)...
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2010, 03:46:58 PM »
Obviously, he still mantained its usual neoliberal doctrines : down with civil servants, down with public spending !

...

I was watching the debate on TF1's website, but now it says they can't broadcast anymore. So I will miss the end. Sad
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2010, 01:19:02 PM »
Quote from: Bon écoute, non, [wagon] arrête, hiérarchise... on January 26, 2010, 12:54:32 PM
'Un chef de l'état à l'écoute et volontairement pédagogue' (saying the chief of state was well listening and with the good will to teach).

Roll Eyes
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2010, 02:14:16 PM »
Well, he got the sentence he deserved, and at least it proves that justice can work decently sometimes.

Still, Villepin remains a pityful joke, and he'll get crushed in 2012.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2010, 01:09:27 PM »

Two Sarkozy epic fails are more amusing than one ! Grin
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,354
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #73 on: January 29, 2010, 01:28:26 PM »
Quote from: This is the displayed name that people will see on January 29, 2010, 01:22:40 PM
a totally free Villepin could make a lot of damages during 2 years.

I doubt that. Villepin won't attract anybody except a bunch of old-style gaullist right-wingers (ie 1% of the electorate). And still, most of them already know he has nothing to do with gaullism, neither has real ideological differences with Sarkozy.
Really, Villepin's candidatcy in 2012 would be a non-event.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2010, 01:32:48 PM »
Quote from: This is the displayed name that people will see on January 29, 2010, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on January 29, 2010, 01:28:26 PM
Quote from: This is the displayed name that people will see on January 29, 2010, 01:22:40 PM
a totally free Villepin could make a lot of damages during 2 years.

I doubt that. Villepin won't attract anybody except a bunch of old-style gaullist right-wingers (ie 1% of the electorate). And still, most of them already know he has nothing to do with gaullism, neither has real ideological differences with Sarkozy.
Really, Villepin's candidatcy in 2012 would be a non-event.

You underestimate the power of charisma in this society, a power that Villepin is very well able to use.

Do you really find him charismatic ? Huh Yes, he speaks well, but his lyric style is totally out of touch with reality.
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