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[Antonio the Sixth]

Damn good riddance. Here's hoping that he can just definitely disappear from the political scene and stop polluting it.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, I heard that this morning.

Well, that's really a surprise : I don't think anybody expect that... While the guy was a pathetic scumbag, I don't see how his death could make anybody happy.

[Antonio the Sixth]

You really care about all this "remaniement" bullsh*t ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

You really care about all this "remaniement" bullsh*t ?

No matter you want it or not it has some consequences, even if that doesn't mean the policy of the govt would change. Politician consequences, not political ones.

Oh sure, Borloo is pissed off and Fillon is happy because he will be able to be irrelevant for two more years. But I still don't know why anyone should care besides the ministers/former ministers/could-have-been ministers themselves.

[Antonio the Sixth]

You really care about all this "remaniement" bullsh*t ?

No matter you want it or not it has some consequences, even if that doesn't mean the policy of the govt would change. Politician consequences, not political ones.

Oh sure, Borloo is pissed off and Fillon is happy because he will be able to be irrelevant for two more years. But I still don't know why anyone should care besides the ministers/former ministers/could-have-been ministers themselves.

What has been discussed here so far for example. It starts a battle in the Center. It also shows and technically officializes a lesser importance for ecologist policies in this govt.

The battle in the center will be resolved in a way or another, and the centrist candidate in 2012 (if ever there is one) won't have any influence.
Also, LOL @ the idea that Borloo as PM would have meant a greater importance of ecological policies.

[Antonio the Sixth]

If it's important for you, fine then. I'd like however not to be called a far-left stooge just because I disagree with you.

With the collapse of the UDF, the logical impossibility of a center unaligned with the right in the French political system has become apparent.

Rather say it has become blatant. You probably know it has been apparent since at least the mid 1960s.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'm just getting immunized about this kind of things. And that's sad.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'd much prefer if Harper was a not so-incompetent slightly insane/erratic and somewhat corrupt figure similar to Sarkozy; instead of the dangerous hard-right ideologue incompetent failure he is.

How the hell is Sarkozy not-so-incompetent ?

Oh, Martine Aubry said on France2's evening news (2nd biggest TV evening news in France) that now their was an agreement not only with DSK but also with...Royal, not to run against each other. Seems I was right to doubt of her candidacy. That being said, it will be better to wait that Royal says it herself before taking it for a given.

Knowing that Royal is likely not to run is music for my ears... Still, as you, I'd tend to be cautious.

[Antonio the Sixth]

What a pathetic b*tch. Sorry but that's too much.

[Antonio the Sixth]

What a pathetic b*tch. Sorry but that's too much.

Aubry? Yeah. How petty and unclassy from her, Royal clearly hadn't made a 'pact'.

Though not sure your comment was directed toward her...

Yeah of course, Aubry would have take the enormous political risk to lie about this with the possibility of being ridiculed as she was, and for what exactly ? Makes perfect sense, yeah.

[Antonio the Sixth]

What a pathetic b*tch. Sorry but that's too much.

Aubry? Yeah. How petty and unclassy from her, Royal clearly hadn't made a 'pact'.

Though not sure your comment was directed toward her...

Yeah of course, Aubry would have take the enormous political risk to lie about this with the possibility of being ridiculed as she was, and for what exactly ? Makes perfect sense, yeah.

Eh, look how all journalists go, not the slightest one to evocate 'oh could it have been a tricky initiative from Aubry??'. No, no, they all go 'oh, finally Royal has broken the pact...'. Royal never gave up ambitions, never talked of such things, and one week ago on itélé was still saying that she was thinking about the candidacy. Yeah, it forced Royal to unveil herself very early compared to the planned calendar, and to make her look like a divider, which is what's happening. Not the slightest person to evocate the other way around, which knowing Royal ambitions would really be the most probable.

Not that the truth of this is really important, but the way everybody goes in a sense without just even try to wonder about the other way around, which for me makes more sense, is well, surprising...

And if that's effectively what I think then yeah Miss Aubry, how classy, how petty, wow PS...

Still don't see how the current situation could benefit to Aubry and harm Royal. Basically everybody before was thinking "OMG what a dirty plot !" and now think "OMG she was so pround to break with the dirty plotters". Yeah, that's certainly a political manipulation from Aubry and da evul elephants as always, how could not it be so ? Ségolène is far too pure and honest to ever do a similar thing...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah that's her, cuter than her father, enjoy.

Slightly.

[Antonio the Sixth]

New leader, but good old methods don't change apparently:

http://www.france24.com/fr/20110116-journaliste-france24-agression-service-ordre-front-national-tours-michael-szames-%20marine-le-pen-election

A journalist of France24 has been insulted and hit by 8 guys from stewards of FN in charge of the security of the congress in Tours.

And, 'lol'. The journalist first came to see policemen around the place of the congress after it, he's been answered that they can't do anything since the stewards of the congress 'reign in masters' in it. Yay police.

Yay, the good old french far-right...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Hortefeux, quand yen a un ça va, c'est quand yen a plusieurs qu'il y a des problèmes. ^^

Un Hortefeux, c'est déja trop !