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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: October 10, 2016, 06:12:59 PM »

There are many different shades/flavors of it, some of which I'm somewhat sympathetic to (see Marco Pannella).

The variant that's most popular in the US, however, is utter trash.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 12:54:21 PM »

What "interesting ideas" do you get out of nihilism, Murica? Genuinely curious.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2016, 01:00:00 PM »

What "interesting ideas" do you get out of nihilism, Murica? Genuinely curious.
The total rejection of morality, extreme individualism etc.

What is it you find interesting about that? In what way does it nourish your philosophical perspective?
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2016, 01:08:30 PM »

What "interesting ideas" do you get out of nihilism, Murica? Genuinely curious.
The total rejection of morality, extreme individualism etc.

What is it you find interesting about that? In what way does it nourish your philosophical perspective?
They are positions similar to my own, taken in a different direction, that makes them, at the very least, interesting if nothing else.

I guess. Then you'll forgive me if I fail to find any value in this kind of trite, edgy, self-absorbed bullsh*t.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,356
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2016, 01:17:28 PM »

What "interesting ideas" do you get out of nihilism, Murica? Genuinely curious.
The total rejection of morality, extreme individualism etc.

What is it you find interesting about that? In what way does it nourish your philosophical perspective?
They are positions similar to my own, taken in a different direction, that makes them, at the very least, interesting if nothing else.

I guess. Then you'll forgive me if I fail to find any value in this kind of trite, edgy, self-absorbed bullsh*t.
That's basically the definition of presupposed belief right there.

Didn't you just admit that your reason for finding it interesting is presupposed belief? Huh
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 01:36:13 PM »

What "interesting ideas" do you get out of nihilism, Murica? Genuinely curious.
The total rejection of morality, extreme individualism etc.

What is it you find interesting about that? In what way does it nourish your philosophical perspective?
They are positions similar to my own, taken in a different direction, that makes them, at the very least, interesting if nothing else.

I guess. Then you'll forgive me if I fail to find any value in this kind of trite, edgy, self-absorbed bullsh*t.
That's basically the definition of presupposed belief right there.

Didn't you just admit that your reason for finding it interesting is presupposed belief? Huh
No, I find almost all philosophy interesting even if I disagree with it(a good example are the Stoics, who I believe were wrong on near enough everything, yet I still find interesting and do not reject out of hand) and simply find Nihilism to be a bit closer to heart to my current beliefs.

There are plenty of philosophies I find very interesting even if I disagree with them (existentialism would be a good example, actually). Nihilism is not one of them. I don't see any value in it whatsoever, and, despite my explicit invitation, you have failed to convince me otherwise.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 02:06:30 PM »

Are you actually arguing that all ideas are valuable "in and of themselves"? Oooooooooh boy...
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