NV-CNN/ORC: D: Clinton 48% Sanders 47%; R: Trump 45% Rubio 19% Cruz 17%

[Antonio the Sixth]

The fact that we now have two polls showing a statistical tie should at least unnerve our resident Hillbots a little bit.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Nevada "was always going to be tight"? That's news to me. First you guys were saying Bernie would be lucky to win any State, then he was going to win NH but immediately get clobbered everywhere else... I'm glad you now accept that Nevada is in play.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Nevada "was always going to be tight"? That's news to me. First you guys were saying Bernie would be lucky to win any State, then he was going to win NH but immediately get clobbered everywhere else... I'm glad you now accept that Nevada is in play.

Don't be smug, you're not unpleasant.

I meant it as in, Nevada was always going to be tight post-Iowa and NH.

I'm not trying to be unpleasant. I would just like to see people stop being hacks for one second. And yes, this also applies to a lot of Bernie folks over here who overhype dubious polls like this one, but it would still be nice to see someone on the Hillary side not constantly rationalizing the fact that she has been repeatedly losing the expectations game for the past six months or so.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Nevada "was always going to be tight"? That's news to me. First you guys were saying Bernie would be lucky to win any State, then he was going to win NH but immediately get clobbered everywhere else... I'm glad you now accept that Nevada is in play.

Don't be smug, you're not unpleasant.

I meant it as in, Nevada was always going to be tight post-Iowa and NH.

I'm not trying to be unpleasant. I would just like to see people stop being hacks for one second. And yes, this also applies to a lot of Bernie folks over here who overhype dubious polls like this one, but it would still be nice to see someone on the Hillary side not constantly rationalizing the fact that she has been repeatedly losing the expectations game for the past six months or so.

I actually predicted that Sanders could fill a vacuum and threaten Hillary back in September because she was focused on small events and Bernie was holding big events and building momentum. While I don't like seeing it and hoped it wouldn't happen, it's not surprising to me.

OBVIOUSLY, Hillary is not doing as well as she otherwise should (based on all factors, not preference), Sanders has done incredibly well and he's connecting to dissatisfaction and bringing issues to the fore. I think part of the issue was that I think Hillary was OVER-VALUED and something like this was going to be a risk regardless of who ran against her, but especially likely if someone ran from the left.

Fair enough. I didn't really have you in mind when I made that comment in the first place.