Jimmy Carter in the american political spectrum

[Antonio the Sixth]

There are ones who consider Jimmy Carter the most leftist president of the United States.

Really? Wow, some people are really stupid.

[Antonio the Sixth]

ideologically neutral issues like civil rights

lol

[Antonio the Sixth]

ideologically neutral issues like civil rights

lol

Hey man, great response!!  If a bunch of conservatives and liberals support something, and a bunch of conservatives and liberals oppose that same thing over time, where the hell do you get off calling the stance that happens to be more favored by historians a "liberal" point of view?  Awfully convenient.

Modern American conservatism didn't even exist before the Civil Rights issue burst into the public debate. Goldwater's stance against the CRA was one of its key (if not the single most important) defining moments.

[Antonio the Sixth]

ideologically neutral issues like civil rights

lol

Hey man, great response!!  If a bunch of conservatives and liberals support something, and a bunch of conservatives and liberals oppose that same thing over time, where the hell do you get off calling the stance that happens to be more favored by historians a "liberal" point of view?  Awfully convenient.

Modern American conservatism didn't even exist before the Civil Rights issue burst into the public debate. Goldwater's stance against the CRA was one of its key (if not the single most important) defining moments.

Let's forget that Goldwater supported every single Civil Rights Act before that one to paint him as evil.

Change your avatar already.

Modern American conservatism didn't even exist before the Civil Rights issue burst into the public debate. Goldwater's stance against the CRA was one of its key (if not the single most important) defining moments.

No.  Modern American conservatism, with its emphasis upon religion and a distrust of government evolved organically from the anti-communism of the immediate postwar era.  Goldwaterism was a side branch of that, but was ultimately not the true ancestor of modern conservatism.

That form of conservatism remained a fringe movement until it merged with the anti-Civil Rights crowd.