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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: April 08, 2013, 01:33:37 PM »

About as bad as a democratically-elected politician can be.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 03:10:29 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 03:17:08 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 03:34:32 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 03:37:37 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 03:41:17 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.

When the Argentinians attacked it they didn't think so.

And as it appeared, Argentinians didn't quite have the means to achieve what they wanted. A mixture of threat and bargaining could have resolved the issue.
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2013, 03:46:41 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.

I'm sure the British citizens resident on the Falklands don't think it's an 'almost empty little f**king island'. How silly.

I'd rather have 2000 people displaced than 1000 people killed. How silly.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2013, 03:48:07 PM »

Well, Tony we agree diplomacy could have done the trick, and it might be a sh**thole place to be worrying about, but no country, including the USA is ever going to let even it's sh**ttiest territory or possession come under attack, without an overwhelming response to it.

Yeah, and that's this kind of dick-waving attitude (which, as you can notice, doesn't require having one) which makes the world an awful place.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2013, 03:50:47 PM »

Not wanting people to be killed is a French thing now? You couldn't have made me prouder of my nationality.
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2013, 04:03:03 PM »

OK, let's agree to disagree there - again, it's not like Argentina was going to be able to keep the Falklands anyway, and might easily be driven to effectively abandon the island with a few minimal concessions, so it's not like there would actually be any displaced person.
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