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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: January 13, 2013, 06:32:25 AM »

Is this surprising anyone? You do know there are a number of politicians in this country that take the pro-life stance on abortion, right? Is this some big shock to you?

Yes.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2013, 03:06:25 PM »

Is this surprising anyone? You do know there are a number of politicians in this country that take the pro-life stance on abortion, right? Is this some big shock to you?

Yes.

...And you've been studying American politics how long? Do I act all surprised that, lo and behold, in the post-Cold War era, France elected a president that's part of a "Socialist" party? And I don't pretend to know sh#t about French politics. Regardless of how "disgusting" and "inhumane" a position of someone might be in X country, don't act like this isn't par for the course in X country.

Shocking =/= surprising.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 06:32:49 AM »

But why should there be an exception for rape?

1. Life begins at conception, meaning that a fetus is a human being.
2. All human beings have equal inalienable rights before the law.
3. One of these rights is a right to life.
4. An unborn baby has a right to life.

You can't just change #4 to say "an unborn baby has a right to life, except if it was conceived through rape", because, if a fetus truly is a human life, then it is treated with the rights of all of humanity, and all of humanity is treated with the same rights as a fetus.  To say that a fetus could be aborted because it was conceived out of rape, even though it is a human life, would mean that a mother could kill her 5-year-old child who was conceived out of rape.

The only way you avoid such a connection is to remove premise #2 and say that all human beings are not equal before the law.  And if you do that, you've removed years of what civil rights activists fought for, and you are saying that humans can determine who gets inalienable rights and who doesn't.  And if humanity can determine that, they really aren't inalienable.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

(And pro-life radicals, apparently)

Well where was the flaw in my logic?

The fact you think "logic" outweighs the sheer immorality of forcing a raped woman to carry her rapist's baby.
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