Opinion of School Modesty Club

[Antonio the Sixth]

I hate the hypersexualisation of women's body in modern society, but I hate efforts to force a particular dresscode on women much more. Puritan, reactionary sh*t.

[Antonio the Sixth]

"Modesty Club" sounds negative and I don't like it, but the gist of it is that while at school it's time to work and not walk around half nude or in your pajamas or whatever you rolled out of bed in. I support that and think these kids have their heads screwed on, even if the name of the club is pretentious. I think they'd like just a little professionalism to catch on. When they go to work as adults, unless it's a strip club, they won't be walking around half nude or in what they wore to bed the previous night. Schools need to better prepare kids for both college and the professional world. There's a time and place to work, and a time and place to play.

Positive (D).

I agree that to an extent schools should prepare kids for the way the real world is (regardless of the way it should be), but for plenty of things, society has stricter standards for children than the real world does (in particular cursing, as was referenced in the article).

There's a difference between wanting dress to be professional and non-distracting, which is generally a positive goal in a school I suppose, and the sexist, slut-shaming, moralizing that these parents are brainwashing their poor children to preach.

What's wrong with slut shaming? Sluts and cads are a scourge on society.

Because girls who wear sexually explicit clothes aren't sluts (at least most of them aren't). They just happen to live in a society where they are told for all their life that their goal is to be objects of male pleasure.

Removing all social pressure in the domain of clothing, rather than creating another pressure that contradicts the first, is the solution. "Modestly clubs" and strip clubs are the two faces of the same patriarchal order, which wants women to be sluts and wants them to be ashamed about it.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Because girls who wear sexually explicit clothes aren't sluts (at least most of them aren't). They just happen to live in a society where they are told for all their life that their goal is to be objects of male pleasure.

Removing all social pressure in the domain of clothing, rather than creating another pressure that contradicts the first, is the solution. "Modestly clubs" and strip clubs are the two faces of the same patriarchal order, which wants women to be sluts and wants them to be ashamed about it.

How is it remotely possible to remove all social pressure for anything?  Sexual attraction and a love of beauty are innate in human beings.  It's ridiculous to deny that.  People also like clothing and like dressing up.  I really don't understand why that's such a bad thing.  Ultimately, women are objects for the pleasure of other people.  And men are too.  That's not automatically degrading.

But it's pretty clear that in modern society (and in previous societies as well), this aspect of life is excessively stressed upon throughout their lives. Of course appearance has always mattered and will always matter, but for centuries women have been conditioned to make of this the essential part of their lives, while men were given space for things professional achievement, public life, etc. This has changed a lot in the past decades, but a strong force against this change has been the hypersexualisation of marketing, especially that destined to teenage girls, which continuously inculcates them the idea that their goal at life is to become an object of desire. This tendency can, and must be countered if we want to eventually achieve a post-patriarchal society.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I hate the hypersexualisation of women's body in modern society, but I hate efforts to force a particular dresscode on women much more. Puritan, reactionary sh*t.

Force? This is a club we're talking about here.

The whole purpose of the club is to force a certain dress code on young girls via peer pressure.

I think the peer pressure is still mostly going in the other direction.

True. But both directions are bad.