Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE

[Antonio the Sixth]

Party for Freedom (Netherlands) is out

PVV : 21
FP (N) : 16
ÖVP : 10
KD : 8
LibDem : 6
Con : 5
VVD : 4
CDU/CSU : 2




- Austrian People's Party
- Danish Social Liberal Party
- Venstre (Denmark)
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
- Centre Party (Finland)
- National Coalition Party (Finland)
- True Finns
- National Front (France)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
- Liberal Party (Iceland)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) Immune for rounds 7-10
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
- Centre Party (Norway)
- Liberal Party (Norway)
- Conservative Party (Norway)
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
- Progress Party (Norway)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
- Centre Party (Sweden)
- Moderate Party (Sweden)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden)
- Sweden Democrats
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
- Swiss People's Party
- Liberal Democrats (UK)
- Conservative Party (UK)

Round 10 begins. You have 5 votes to eliminate, to cast 3-2. You also have 3 votes to immunize, to cast 2-1. Please do not cast any vote for immune parties.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Eliminate :
3 VVD
2 KD

Immunity :
2 Hoyre
1 Moderate Party

[Antonio the Sixth]

Progress Party (Norway) is out

FP (N) : 17
Con : 8
VVD : 7
KD : 5
LibDem : 4
KFP : 2
FP (S) : 2

Immunity
H : 8
Con : 6
B : 3
M : 3
Kesk : 2
V (D) : 1
C (S) : 1
FP (S) : 1
CDU/CSU : 1
LibDem : 1




- Austrian People's Party
- Danish Social Liberal Party
- Venstre (Denmark)
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
- Centre Party (Finland)
- National Coalition Party (Finland)
- True Finns
- National Front (France)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
- Liberal Party (Iceland)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
- Centre Party (Norway)
- Liberal Party (Norway)
- Conservative Party (Norway) Immune for rounds 11-14
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
- Progress Party (Norway)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
- Centre Party (Sweden)
- Moderate Party (Sweden)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden)
- Sweden Democrats
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
- Swiss People's Party
- Liberal Democrats (UK)
- Conservative Party (UK)

Round 11 begins. For rounds 11 and 12, you have 10 votes overall. You can split them as you want between this round and the next one (for example, you can cast 7 votes this round and 3 the next one). You must cast all your votes for the same party.

[Antonio the Sixth]

4 VVD

[Antonio the Sixth]

Liberal Democrats (UK) is out

LibDem : 19
Con : 13
VVD : 12
C (D) : 8




- Austrian People's Party
- Danish Social Liberal Party
- Venstre (Denmark)
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
- Centre Party (Finland)
- National Coalition Party (Finland)
- True Finns
- National Front (France)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
- Liberal Party (Iceland)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
- Centre Party (Norway)
- Liberal Party (Norway)
- Conservative Party (Norway) Immune for rounds 11-14
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
- Progress Party (Norway)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
- Centre Party (Sweden)
- Moderate Party (Sweden)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden)
- Sweden Democrats
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
- Swiss People's Party
- Liberal Democrats (UK)
- Conservative Party (UK)

Round 12 begins. No elimination this round, only a direct promotion vote. You have 9 votes, to cast 4-4-1.

Due to an error from me, the votes not used in round 11 will be cast next round instead of this one, sorry.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wait, what? Where did this "Promotion" rule come from?
Maybe i'm missing when the threads will be merged or something but is there any reason why we have a promotion vote this round instead of in round 13?

For symetry's sake... Promotion in group A was 3 rounds after the first one, so in group B it's 3 rounds before the last one.

I'm sorry, I had scheduled the promotion round before even beginning phase II. When I made this rule on round 11, I had totally forgotten about that...

I hope that won't be too much of a problem, but you know I did the mistake in good faith.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Promote :
4 CDU/CSU
4 Moderate Party
1 Democrats 66

[Antonio the Sixth]

Direct promotion
CDU/CSU : 23
Con : 16
M : 16
D66 : 10
Kok : 4
Kesk : 4
B : 4
KD : 1
V : 1
C (D) : 1
C (S) : 1




- Austrian People's Party
- Danish Social Liberal Party
- Venstre (Denmark)
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
- Centre Party (Finland)
- National Coalition Party (Finland)
- True Finns
- National Front (France)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) Immune for the rest of phase II
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
- Liberal Party (Iceland)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
- Centre Party (Norway)
- Liberal Party (Norway)
- Conservative Party (Norway) Immune for rounds 11-14
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
- Progress Party (Norway)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
- Centre Party (Sweden)
- Moderate Party (Sweden)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden)
- Sweden Democrats
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
- Swiss People's Party
- Liberal Democrats (UK)
- Conservative Party (UK)

Round 13 begins. Now you can use the eliminate votes you haven't used on round 11. You must cast all your votes for the same party.

[Antonio the Sixth]

6 ÖVP

[Antonio the Sixth]

Conservative Party (UK) is out

Con : 26
ÖVP : 18
VVD : 4




- Austrian People's Party
- Danish Social Liberal Party
- Venstre (Denmark)
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
- Centre Party (Finland)
- National Coalition Party (Finland)
- True Finns
- National Front (France)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) Immune for the rest of phase II
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
- Liberal Party (Iceland)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
- Centre Party (Norway)
- Liberal Party (Norway)
- Conservative Party (Norway) Immune for rounds 11-14
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
- Progress Party (Norway)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
- Centre Party (Sweden)
- Moderate Party (Sweden)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden)
- Sweden Democrats
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
- Swiss People's Party
- Liberal Democrats (UK)
- Conservative Party (UK)

Round 14 begins. You have 2 votes to eliminate, to cast for 2 different parties.

[Antonio the Sixth]

ÖVP Austria
VVD Netherland

[Antonio the Sixth]

Austrian People's Party is out

ÖVP : 4 (more votes in previous rounds, even though calculating it was a damn headache )
VVD : 4
KD : 4
Kesk : 3
KFP : 1
C (D) : 1
D66 : 1




- Austrian People's Party
- Danish Social Liberal Party
- Venstre (Denmark)
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
- Centre Party (Finland)
- National Coalition Party (Finland)
- True Finns
- National Front (France)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) Immune for the rest of phase II
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
- Liberal Party (Iceland)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
- Centre Party (Norway)
- Liberal Party (Norway)
- Conservative Party (Norway)
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
- Progress Party (Norway)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
- Centre Party (Sweden)
- Moderate Party (Sweden)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden)
- Sweden Democrats
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
- Swiss People's Party
- Liberal Democrats (UK)
- Conservative Party (UK)

Round 15 begins. You have 10 votes overall, to split as you want between the two groups. You must cast at least 2 votes in each group, and in each group you must cast all your votes for the same party.

[Antonio the Sixth]

7 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
3 Centre Party (Finland)

No, you have to cast 10 votes among the two groups and vote for one party in each.

[Antonio the Sixth]

5 VVD

I counted only Hash's votes for VVD because of this round's rule.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Christian Democrats (Sweden) is out

KD : 20
VVD : 16
Kesk : 10




- Austrian People's Party
- True Finns
- National Front (France)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
- Liberal Party (Iceland)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
- Progress Party (Norway)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden)
- Sweden Democrats
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
- Swiss People's Party
- Liberal Democrats (UK)
- Conservative Party (UK)

Qualified for phase III :
- Danish Social Liberal Party
- Venstre (Denmark)
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
- Centre Party (Finland)
- National Coalition Party (Finland)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands)
- Centre Party (Norway)
- Liberal Party (Norway)
- Conservative Party (Norway)
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
- Centre Party (Sweden)
- Moderate Party (Sweden)

Phase II is now complete ! I hope you have enjoyed this part too. The final phase, for which all surviving parties will be grouped, will soon begin.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Too many scandinavian parties, yeah. If some assholes hadn't focused all their energy in outing LibDems and Conservatives, we could have eliminated Norwegian Christian Democrats and Swedish liberals...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Also, just to make things fully transparent, here's how I've solved the 3-way tie on round 14. To calcualte the "number of votes in previous round, I've made the sum of number of votes/total votes on the round*number of voters, so that rounds with the lot of votes don't get overrepresented.

The results were 6.18 for ÖVP, 5.3 for VVD and 3.86 for KD. As you can see, it was quite close.

[Antonio the Sixth]

If I well remember, you are the one who caused the elimination of the SPS. I was also one of the staunchest defenders of PASOK, and I think I managed to save it a few times.

FDP, Epic Fail, SYRIZA, and FN are all crap, the last two deserving to be ousted far earlier than they actually were.

And yeah, I like "old boring parties we already know everything about". They are among the richest and most interesting parties in this survivor.

[Antonio the Sixth]

There are many Scandinavian parties. Most of them are fairly old and have rich history, although  especially Alliance parties in Sweden are not very distinctive anymore. The reason for Scandinavian over presentation stem from original choices of Antonio. For example, Norwegian Venstre is really small party. For example Finnish KD or Dutch CU are much more living parties. Personally I think there is many interesting Italian and French parties that were not originally as alternatives. Anyhow this is interesting survivor.

The parties you mentioned are all around 4% today in their respective countries, but Venstre is the only one which got over 5% at some point (5.9% in the 2005 election). My criterion might be a bit arbitrary, but there was no other way to select parties for someone who hasn't an extremely approfondite knowledge of each of the 20 countries concerned.

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Would I really spend so much time organizing all this if it were just for a bunch of assholes ?

And anyway yes, I understand your "vision" of this survivor and why you don't want the SPD or the Tories to win this (I don't either, FTR). I still find it a bit weird that these parties were above truly nasty sacks of crap like ÖVP or VVD in your "hit list".