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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: February 15, 2011, 05:49:03 AM »
So Fine Gael is leading the polls and Epic Fail could remain the second party ? Ireland really depresses me...
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2011, 09:06:39 AM »
Quote from: Gwerin on February 21, 2011, 08:33:08 AM
The Right has held the Presidency in France since 1995, of course.

To be fair, they are actually in government only since 2002.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 09:43:54 AM »
Let's hope the Fail fail will be as epic as predicted and that for the first time Ireland will have a normal political system with a left and the right.

After all, maybe it's better to have Fine Gael ruling during the crisis period, so that they could get wiped out quickly enough and maybe we could see a Labour government...
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 05:09:09 AM »
Labour 16 points behind FG ? I know it was expected but that's still a pity.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 08:46:40 AM »
Quote from: Јas on March 02, 2011, 06:51:44 AM
Negotiations between FG and Labour continue today. Expectations are that they'll conclude an agreed Programme for Government by the weekend.

Congratulations Labour ! You've just earned the title of dumbest left-wing party in Europe. And it's an exploit considering some of the candidates (French PS, Italian PD...).
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 02:05:40 PM »
Even if Labour does its job decently as a left-wing party, people will keep thinking their only choice is between FF on one side and a Labour/FG coalition on the other. There's no way Labour could emerge as a major party in this case.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 02:13:46 PM »
Quote from: Gweithiwr on March 02, 2011, 02:08:23 PM
What's a major party in the context of Ireland in the year of our Lord 2011? Besides, Fianna Fail is utterly discredited, at least for the time being.

By "major party" I mean a party which can realistically aim at leading a government. It seems that Labour isn't even trying to achieve that goal.

And FF can come back if the coalition does poorly enough, as the only serious party which is not in government. Just like how the republicans won just 2 years after being duly crushed for their utter incompetence.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 04:25:55 AM »
Quote from: Χahar on March 03, 2011, 03:50:33 AM
(and Labour will be relatively pliant given how much larger FG is)

This is what I don't get. When a smaller party enters in a coalition, it generally has the possibility to influentiate the coalition's work a lot, even when it's very small, because it can always go out and make the government fall.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 11:13:30 AM »
If voters buy it, that's fine. But if the FG government fails at managing the economy, the voters won't apreciate it, "national government" or not.

I don't want to seem overly pessimistic (as my sig shows I've enjoyed this election), but I've the sad impression that this massive electoral realignment didn't alter partisan habits at all, and that worries me.
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 12:27:49 PM »
Yeah, I guess I'd support it too. BTW, how is the upper house elected in Ireland ?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 01:11:02 PM »
That looks hilariously archaic... even though that applies to most of Irish politics.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 05:04:07 AM »
Roll Eyes
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2011, 08:19:18 AM »
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Wow, the Irish constitution is even worse than I imagined.
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