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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: August 13, 2009, 09:03:22 AM »

Raising taxes on the rich is absolutely necessary in countries where the inequalities raise a monstruous proportion as the USA. In countries who already have a solid welfare state, the only thing to do is not to lessen them ( as our dear Sarko did... ).
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 09:11:19 AM »

Raising taxes on the rich is absolutely necessary in countries where the inequalities raise a monstruous proportion as the USA. In countries who already have a solid welfare state, the only thing to do is not to lessen them ( as our dear Sarko did... ).




Thanks for this very intelligent and developped argument that makes me understand better your opinion.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 09:36:27 AM »


1) A poor person will never be a person who signs your paycheck.

And more taxes would change anything in that. Fiscal evasion is not linked to the real importance of taxes : those who don't want to pay taxes go away and the others accept them no care of their importance.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 03:53:11 PM »

If the rich are taxed too much guess who they get rid of to pay the tax and stay rich..........YOU.  And if they dont buy stuff that rich peoople buy, who gets laid off.........YOU.

Dude, they get their money in the first place from the labours of their serfs. What do you think, the money comes out their ass and they employ people purely out of the goodness of their hearts?

I can just imagine it now - I get my 1 mil./year from 50 peons labouring in my, oh lets say convenience stores.  Now, I have to pay 50% on the part above 200K instead of 30%.  Ok, lets close stores, fire lots of people, and bring my income down to 200K.  Yes, I really benefit from that.  Do you people ever think about whether your right-wing talking points make any actual sense?


I'll cut my expenses (peon surfs) just enough to make up the difference in income, then make the others work harder, not close stores to bring my income down.

Makes no sense.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2009, 08:28:20 AM »

33% of your income plus local taxes (state income, property tax, sales, etc.) is horrendous. In some states you can wind up paying well over 50% of your income in taxes. I don't think anybody should be forced to pay that much, especially not professionals or small business owners. Those people work extremely hard to get where they are generally speaking, and often at great cost (risk) to themselves - higher taxes could discourage that.

Don't worry, there will ever be rich people. That is fair and normal. What is not normal is that someone could earn 1000 times the minimum wage. And to prevent that we need taxes far higher than 50%. Do you really think multi-billionaries would really be bothered to pay 80% of their income ( [Richius]OMG EVIL COMMUNIST[/Richius] ) to the state ?
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