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« on: September 18, 2004, 10:18:09 AM »

I think the single biggest mistake the Democratic Party made was when it 'abandoned' a Trumanite foreign policy.

While the collapse of the 'Evil Empire' was very much realised by Reagan and accomplished under Bush (41), didn't it represent the ultimate triumph of the Truman Doctrine?

It would seem that the US electorate in the main have favoured a 'hawkish' foreign policy, which partially explains a preference for a Republican President.

Dave


You hit the nail on the head with that post.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2004, 10:21:48 AM »

The Vietnam war shifted a reasonable number of Americans over to a pacifist ideology, and the Democrats moved in to take over this part of the market.


Thats their greatest failure. They should have never embraced the hippies, aka John kerry.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2004, 10:42:13 AM »

I think the single biggest mistake the Democratic Party made was when it 'abandoned' a Trumanite foreign policy.

While the collapse of the 'Evil Empire' was very much realised by Reagan and accomplished under Bush (41), didn't it represent the ultimate triumph of the Truman Doctrine?

It would seem that the US electorate in the main have favoured a 'hawkish' foreign policy, which partially explains a preference for a Republican President.

Dave


You hit the nail on the head with that post.

While I'd certainly be a die-hard Democrat, I dare say that between McGovern and Nixon - don't be so surprised - I'd have voted for Nixon. Watergate-aside I think there was a lot of good in that man.

I wouldn't vote for Bush because I'm far from impressed with his domestic record and the Republican Party platform - I'm too progressive for that!

However, while I'm a hawk on areas of foreign policy, it is domestic issues, which primarily determine how I would vote.

As a loyal Labour Party member I will criticise it (as I would do the Democratic Party) when the need arises.

Dave

You said the Democratic party has Americans in our interest. Maybe some Americans but I do not feel socialism is in my interest.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2004, 10:57:20 AM »

I think the single biggest mistake the Democratic Party made was when it 'abandoned' a Trumanite foreign policy.

While the collapse of the 'Evil Empire' was very much realised by Reagan and accomplished under Bush (41), didn't it represent the ultimate triumph of the Truman Doctrine?

It would seem that the US electorate in the main have favoured a 'hawkish' foreign policy, which partially explains a preference for a Republican President.

Dave


You hit the nail on the head with that post.

While I'd certainly be a die-hard Democrat, I dare say that between McGovern and Nixon - don't be so surprised - I'd have voted for Nixon. Watergate-aside I think there was a lot of good in that man.

I wouldn't vote for Bush because I'm far from impressed with his domestic record and the Republican Party platform - I'm too progressive for that!

However, while I'm a hawk on areas of foreign policy, it is domestic issues, which primarily determine how I would vote.

As a loyal Labour Party member I will criticise it (as I would do the Democratic Party) when the need arises.

Dave

You said the Democratic party has Americans in our interest. Maybe some Americans but I do not feel socialism is in my interest.

I'm not a socialist, I'm a socio-capitalist. I think the excesses of laissez-fare or neo-liberal economics need to be regulated, to some extent, to protect those most vulnerable from its excesses. I'd hardly call the Democratic Party socialist, it's not even social democratic. Faced with the choice of the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, I just know which I would support.

Economically, I'm new liberal; fiscally, I'm conservative and socially, I'm moderate.

Dave

They may not be socialist now but they are headed that way. National Healthcare is a step towards it.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2004, 10:59:44 AM »

The Vietnam war shifted a reasonable number of Americans over to a pacifist ideology, and the Democrats moved in to take over this part of the market.

How are the Democrats pacifists? They got us into Korea and Vietnam. My thought is that the Democrats have become the modern day socialist party of America. The Republicans are, at least in theory, the capitalists.

Also the anti-gun laws passed during the Clinton administration had a lot to do with the Republicans gaining control of the congress.


They have become pacifists since Vietnam.
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