Intelligent design belongs in Church not Biology class.

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I agree completely with MissCatholic. The theory of Intelligent design has no place within a biology class whether the 'designer' in question is a god or an alien race!

Then throw out the THEORY of Evolution as well. Evolution is certainly junk science in my book.

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Is it me or is the USA the only civilised nation in the world who is deeply split by this?

Correct- Intelligent design does not belong in Biology class. However it does belong in History class.

It's as much science as the junk science they call "evolution" now.

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I think most of you are missing the point.  Evolution explains the journey of the universe got to the point where it is today.  It does not attempt to explain what caused the journey to start.  I feel that inquiry into the second point is a legitimate for both science and philosophy classes.

The problem, of course, is that if you accept what science teaches, everything can be explained from the big bang without resorting to religous explanations. 

Certainly, one may insert God as the driving force of the big bang, but such a God would be such a distant being that His existence would bring little satisfaction to anyone but agnostics.

I think that there is a fundamental logical conflict between what our current scientific theories tell us and what our popular religions tell us.  Denying this conflict would be foolish. 

Forcing people to accept scientific theories in completion would have such radical effects on their social and religious beliefs so as to result in the rejection of science altogether. 

Thus, it seems to me, allowing intelligent design theory alongside evolution, furthers the cause of science because it encourages religious people to, at least, accept some, if not all scientific premises.  Eventually, of course, people will become dissatisfied with the flawed ID theory and accept the much more robust TOE...

Where's the missing link?

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Due to fluctuating sea levels and the prevailance of our early ancestors to live in coastal areas, it is more than likely that the fossil evidence is underseveral hundred feet of water. And even if they did discover the missing link those who believe evolution is bunk still wouldn't accept it along with such scary concepts as say...oh I don't know the natural prevailance of homosexuality in all species, medical science and the seperation of church and state.

The seperation of church and state is not a "scary concept" its nonexistent here in the US. But of course in Britian they have a state church but they have seperation of church and state there.

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And if America continues down its current path we'll probably soon have most of your scientists too!

Ok, quit believing extremist nonsense.

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Many biblical events have either been a) proven or b) enough proof has been presented to make them credible. Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

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Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

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OK, deny the historical record. Then I guess you can deny your so called "evolution" or "missing link".

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Many biblical events have either been a) proven or b) enough proof has been presented to make them credible. Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

Yea, a man got together every species on Earth and crammed them into a giant boat while it rained for 40 days straight. 

Ok States......ok

Ok, debate the historical record if you wish. Although it hasn't been proven that EVERY animal was put on a boat. It certainly is very plausible their WAS a flood. And it's been proven re : Black Sea.

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I wouldn't call it "intelligent" design simply because god put men in charge.

Damn it I gave a rib for you! What more do you want?

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Many biblical events have either been a) proven or b) enough proof has been presented to make them credible. Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

Yea, a man got together every species on Earth and crammed them into a giant boat while it rained for 40 days straight. 

Ok States......ok

Ok, debate the historical record if you wish. Although it hasn't been proven that EVERY animal was put on a boat. It certainly is very plausible their WAS a flood. And it's been proven re : Black Sea.

Yes, there was a flood.  The Epic of Gilgamesh, also written at the time, describes a flood in the Middle East.  So do many other ancients texts.  But it was not a flood decreed by God to wash clean the sins of humanity.  It was more likely geologically related or the overflowing of a river.  At the time, the people of the Middle East knew nothing of any other people in the world.  So a flood that destroyed some of the earlier civilizations there could have been interpreted as a punishment from God because they only people they knew where affected by the flood as well. 

You nor I could know whether God did that or not.

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It belongs in schools but not the biology class

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So does evolution due to the fact that evolution has more holes in it then a block of swiss cheese.

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It belongs in schools but not the biology class

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So does evolution due to the fact that evolution has more holes in it then a block of swiss cheese.

That's why it needs to be taught correctly.  There is a difference between Macro-evolution (the theory which says that everything began with one cell) and Micro-evolution (the science which covers actual evolution which we are able to observe and analyze).  One is theory, one is fact. 

Most Christians (even evangelicals I know) accept Micro-evolution as a fact. Its Macro-evolution w/which they are strongly against.

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So why don't we, as the elightened group that we are, issue a statement to the press to tell the two extreme groups out there to get over themselves and show them how to teach the material?  Teach Micro-evolution in biology (where it belongs), and Macro-evolution and Christian Creationism in History, where it belongs?  That way, the "science" is taught in science classes, and myths/theories are taught in History classes where it belongs. 

The problem is out of the the three ideas we have no idea which one is science/myth/theory. But I'm pretty sure Macro evolution is complete bunk.

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So why don't we, as the elightened group that we are, issue a statement to the press to tell the two extreme groups out there to get over themselves and show them how to teach the material?  Teach Micro-evolution in biology (where it belongs), and Macro-evolution and Christian Creationism in History, where it belongs?  That way, the "science" is taught in science classes, and myths/theories are taught in History classes where it belongs. 

The problem is out of the the three ideas we have no idea which one is science/myth/theory. But I'm pretty sure Macro evolution is complete bunk.

Hmmm . . . interesting.  How about this:  If God truly exists, and one day he shows that he is real and did in fact make the world, would it then be considered science, or just history?

Option 3 : Philisophical