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StatesRights
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« on: March 07, 2004, 03:19:06 PM »

I hope you all know that no Democrat has ever become president that hasnt won at least 5 southern states. Good luck Kerry.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2004, 03:58:22 PM »

Is that likely to happen? Doubtful.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2004, 05:00:56 PM »
« Edited: March 07, 2004, 05:02:23 PM by StatesRights »

Well this election cycle I can guarantee you one thing! The Democratic Candidate will win his home state!

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StatesRights
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2004, 05:17:23 PM »

Angus man you crack me up. What in the world have you been drinking? Nader is a GOP conspiracy to keep Democrats out of office Wink. No shame in showing a States Rights symbol. If you read enough and not believe school history books you will see the truth.
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StatesRights
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2004, 05:30:22 PM »

Yes you like D.C.
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StatesRights
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2004, 10:42:51 PM »

WVA barely carries any E.C. votes. Five? Ohio is definately more important then Occupied Virginia.
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StatesRights
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2004, 11:15:16 PM »

Read "Time on the Cross", that's an excellent book. Yes, Lincoln was a scoundrel. The only reason he is so revered is because he was assasinated. He was one of the biggest constitutional violators in U.S. History.
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StatesRights
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2004, 12:11:00 AM »

The E.Proc. was a political move to keep the British and French from joining the Confederacy. It said "All slaves held by states in rebellion are hereby freed". Slaves in Border States and territory captured by Union Armies didnt apply to this document.
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StatesRights
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2004, 12:12:09 AM »
« Edited: March 08, 2004, 12:13:24 AM by StatesRights »

Dude whats up with the pics of the dead kids? Castro or Sadams work? Is Angus always like this?
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StatesRights
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2004, 12:18:37 AM »

Yes, I believe they would have. Poor white southerners and blacks have gotten along well long before slavery ended. Most of the racial stuff was inflamed by carpetbaggers after the war.
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StatesRights
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2004, 12:20:06 AM »

Anyways, whats this have to do with John Edwards for VP?
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StatesRights
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2004, 12:23:28 AM »

But hey, the South was right; states are allowed to secede. But the Union is allowed to declare war on them and beat them into submission ...

Is a Union a voluntary pact or a required pact? Does the Federal Govt have the right to beat up on a sovereign state for using its legal right to leave?
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2004, 12:25:09 AM »

It doesnt matter. The Confederacy had a right to exist. Slavery would have come to an end within a generation. It would have been worth it to let slavery continue for 15 more years if it meant those 700,000 didnt have to die

If you lived in the Confederacy today, would your schools be integrated?

Yes. South Africa's schools are integrated

I see.  So integration just would have taken decades longer, involved countless deadly riots, police brutality, mass political oppression, and an international economic boycott of the Confederacy.

Umm, remember reading about the busing issue in Boston? Northern schools were segregated to. Segregation wasnt limited to the south.
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StatesRights
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2004, 12:28:27 AM »

But hey, the South was right; states are allowed to secede. But the Union is allowed to declare war on them and beat them into submission ...

Is a Union a voluntary pact or a required pact? Does the Federal Govt have the right to beat up on a sovereign state for using its legal right to leave?

By signing the Constitution, the states gave up the right to field their own armies.   They Southern states had the right to lobby for their views through the political process they committed to when they signed the Constitution.  There is no exit clause in the document.

Even though Daniel Webster preached secession as a legal right, West Point taught it, and several N.England states almost did!
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2004, 12:31:09 AM »

But Lincoln said the states never left in the first place! lol
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2004, 12:34:01 AM »

Actually when the south left the north lost their main source of income. Remember, the south for many years before the war was being sucked dry by the north while the north would take the money and use it to improve their infrastructure and give nothing but crumbs back to the south.
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2004, 12:35:25 AM »
« Edited: March 08, 2004, 12:36:40 AM by StatesRights »

Sad to see my fellow Marylanders have come to favoring Yankees. And if it was decided to be wrong to secede why did the Military Academy at West Point teach secession to be a legal right of the states?
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2004, 12:40:30 AM »

After years of brainwashing by the Federal Schooling System. The facts have long since been covered up and white washed so badly no one knows what the heck is the truth and whats fiction. The Knights of the Golden Circle had a lot to do with events in the war. You should read about them they are interesting.
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StatesRights
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2004, 12:48:28 AM »

After years of brainwashing by the Federal Schooling System. The facts have long since been covered up and white washed so badly no one knows what the heck is the truth and whats fiction. The Knights of the Golden Circle had a lot to do with events in the war. You should read about them they are interesting.

Well I'll concede one thing, you've read more about this than I have. Though that doesn't mean what you've read has necessarily been unbiased or true.

Every book is Biased, show me one thats not (ok not the bible). But some of the stories they tell in school books are outright lies. BTW, what part of MD are you from?
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