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pbrower2a
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« on: December 20, 2019, 02:46:20 PM »

That doesn't make her an HP, but we are all out of statesmen and stateswomen.

Why not try being one yourself rather than devoting your forum presence to tirelessly defending or (in this case) equivocating obvious wrongdoing from a politician you happen to support?

I could say the same for you, and for most of the forum, including many I view as FFs.  You're not a bad person, but you show rank partisanship in your posts and you don't deviate from your leftist perspective.  That's fine; it really is, but you're just one more person here who can apply the adage:  "Let it begin with me!".

People have been unfair to President Trump since DAY ONE.  People were bound and determined to stop him from being the GOP Nominee, and from being the President.  And people were enraged when Trump crashed the party and won the election.  

The entire investigation process and impeachment process is a sham.  There are reasons to not vote for Trump, but no reason to impeach him.  THAT'S my statesman position.  

Donald Trump was obviously a flawed person, enough that he was unable to win even a plurality of the popular vote -- but he won the right votes, so we are stuck with him. That does not mean that he is beyond criticism when he makes extreme lapses of moral discretion. Your side was not so generous with Barack Obama, who had much less evidence of being a corrupt, cruel, reckless leader and showed no signs of such after becoming President. What most who voted against Trump saw in him has proved an understatement before he was elected.

We have no more duty to be 'fair' to President Trump by your standard than your side was 'fair' to Barack Obama. Part of freedom is the right to act as a swine without doing real harm as we understand in statutory law.

If the President cannot be impeached for an attempt to blackmail a foreign head of state for his own political gain, then what else can he get away with? Murder? War crimes? Embezzlement? Bribe-taking? We Democrats have seen much that we find objectionable, but not clearly impeachable. A failed attempt to blackmail a foreign leader doesn't raise so much passion, but it is as impeachable a deed as is possible.  Democrats had to impeach the President for such even if such were inconvenient, ill-timed, and ineffective.

Paradoxically, Democrats get to hit President Trump on an activity in which Republicans usually have the political advantage. It is up to Republicans to decide whether to put conscience over partisanship.

Oh, yes -- far better is it that we have an impeachment and not a military coup. Be glad that the Armed Services, the intelligence services, the diplomatic corps, and federal  law enforcement had House Democrats to which to turn. The Democratic majority in the House did its job, and did it well.       
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pbrower2a
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2019, 06:42:16 PM »

I didn't even see the "look up" part before.  This has to be some kind of serious dementia at this point.  There is no other explanation for this behavior.  It's amazing that a solid 40% of the country is buying this insanity.

In the name of criticizing Trump, people spread a lot of wild misunderstandings of what dementia is, but this blaming this comment on dementia might take the cake.

Dude, dementia is the charitable interpretation.

charitable to whom?

Charitable in contrast to an assumption of deliberate evil or reckless contempt for the sensibilities of others. I have seen dementia destroy the inhibitions of people. Practically everyone has some spiders in his soul, and inhibitions are exactly what keep those from coming to the fore in ourselves.

In theory the President can be removed for gross disability. Reagan may have been severely in Alzheimer's syndrome, but he at least had a sort of regency council with competent people such as the elder Bush, George Shultz and Caspar Weinberger coaching him to do the right things as ceremonial acts. Trump has nothing of the sort; he has surrounded himself with yes-men from the start. There is no equivalent of Caspar Weinberger or George Shultz to guide Trump.  Mike Pence is a cunning, but abrasive fellow with no ability to reach out to anyone not a True Believer, and whose competence on foreign affairs  or military matters is completely unproved.  He seems like the sort who believes that America has no problems that faith in God (as Pence understands Him!) and plutocracy cannot solve.

Anyone with half a brain recognize that the reckless Tweets do the President's image no good. A wise person who makes public pronouncements makes sure that someone trustworthy checks them for grammatical faults, rhetorical failure, and semantic ambiguities. We may all recognize that derogatory descriptions of rivals, opponents, and detractors are part of his character; he doesn't.

We have a Presidency out of touch with 55% or more of the People (as disapproval numbers show)... and, worse, with objective reality, legal niceties, and of course the Constitution.    
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