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pbrower2a
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« on: June 19, 2018, 07:30:27 PM »

One of three scenarios...

1) A wildly popular incumbent president (70-80% approval rating) presiding over a booming economy and a peaceful world stage plunders a terrible opponent.

2) A wildly unpopular incumbent president (15-25% approval rating) presiding over an economic depression and/or an unpopular war gets plundered by a flawless challenger.

3) A colossal third-party candidacy takes root and splits one of the parties in half, resulting in the other party benefiting from the fracture.


1) The last Presidents to get  500 electoral votes were incumbents getting re-elected against very weak opponents -- Reagan against 'in honor of long, loyal, and meritorious service to his party' Walter Mondale in 1984, Nixon against a nominee (George McGovern) portrayed as a dangerous radical in 1972, and FDR against Alf Landon who practically served as token opposition in 1936. The incumbent President had already won by a large margin getting elected and seemed to have solved some big problems.

Donald Trump will not be in this position, having been barely elected in 2016 and probably creating more and worse problems  than he solved.

2) This is worse failure than incumbents Hoover and Carter. You might see this only if the President is seen as a criminal and is facing mass protests.  Trump getting fewer than 39 electoral votes? I don't see this happening.

3) Possible but unlikely. Even Perot failed at that level.

Anything else? Rigged election? I don;t want to imagine the circumstances in which this is possible.           
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pbrower2a
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2018, 11:12:41 AM »
« Edited: October 08, 2018, 04:22:03 PM by pbrower2a »

1. The incumbent wins.

Hoover got 59 electoral votes in 1932 and Carter got 49 electoral votes, precluding the challenger from getting 500.  Every incumbent shows some zone of strong support from the first election to the second.

2. The Republican wins California. California alone has 55 electoral votes. 538-55 = 487.

3. The Democrat wins Texas. Well, one could get 500 electoral votes without Texas (538-36 =502) but that leaves no room for the Democrat losing any whole state. Texas straddles the zone of the 400th electoral vote for a Democrat, and has for a long time.

4. The winner gets both New York and Florida. By not getting New York (538-29 = 509), the Republican cannot lose any one state with ten or more electoral votes, or Dee Cee and any state with    seven or more electoral votes. Florida is close to the tipping-point as it is.  

Trump is not going to lose New York without also losing Dee Cee, Hawaii, and Vermont... or without losing Maryland.  
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