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pbrower2a
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« on: November 21, 2017, 12:57:51 PM »

An absence of net neutrali9ty means that internet providers could effectively censor the web of material that offends the political, economic, or cultural interests of the provider. Comcast might block one from getting any programming schedule for networks competing with NBC.

Internet providers could make special arrangements that essentially block alternatives, thus supporting monopoly in marketing. They could censor something like Project Gutenberg so that Karl Marx would be off limits so that one could never contemplate him as an answer to a bad capitalist order, or Bertrand Russell for his atheism.  (Even if I were a Christian supporting libertarian capitalism, I would want people to know about Marx and Russell so that people could discuss what is wrong with them). Thinking of a uniion to improve conditions at work? Perish the thought -- by killing access to any pro-union material.

The idea is to intensify the trend of monopolization  of the American economy and entrench the power of extant elites who, so far as I can tell, want America to be a place in which 95% of the people suffer for the 2% that forms the elite -- or else.

...The more I see of Donald Trump as President, the more I wish I were a citizen of some other country.
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pbrower2a
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2017, 03:25:28 PM »

Is there any evidence media companies were actually doing that, though? There's never been any difficulty finding left wing subversive content on the web and the big companies could have been doing this all along if they wanted to.

The only thing net "neutrality" does is enable the government/FCC to do things like that since they're the ones who define what constitutes "neutrality" with no possibility for judicial review if I recall correctly. So if you don't think the way the FCC is administering this stuff is neutral you can't sue them. With Trump of all people in charge of the executive branch you'd think that would be the last thing the left would want.

But this has already happened to varying degrees. This is from Wiki:

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Also, something not covered by net neutrality rules is ISPs instituting data caps then exempting certain services from said caps, which has the effect of driving users to those services because they don't count against their artificially-low data caps. I mean that really works out for the ISPs - they institute data caps that are completely arbitrary, then exempt their favored services, possibly because they've gotten kickbacks or other treats from those businesses/services. Charging your competitors extra money or flat out throttling their access to their networks is the logical next step, and arguably was the first step, but was limited by law for a short time.

Everything the telecoms have become and everything they continue to do and push for indicates they will abuse the internet in the ways people have warned about. These are not benevolent companies by any means. If they had no intention of not pursuing such strategies down the road, I don't think they'd have fought tooth and nail against net neutrality restrictions.

Also, a big reason why Comcast and Verizon want net neutrality repealed is a further push to tiered internet packages. I am sure a high-tier gaming/media streaming package is in the works. They already have these but when NN is repealed, it would open the floodgates for this package, esp to compete for the business of cord cutters.

More expensive Internet for people who use huge amounts of bandwidth is in  itself reasonable. Gamers and commercial users are obvious enough. People who use the Internet for streaming high-data material, like video in extreme definition, might as well pay more.  But price associated with cost  is the norm  in the American economy.

The solution is more competition -- not less. If one does not trust one's Internet provider, one should have an alternative even if that is more costly.

I can imagine some people wanting certain material, like pornography, blocked. (But there are Net-minder programs that can do that anyway).

     
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