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« on: October 08, 2016, 11:18:43 AM »

Okay, I take back what I said about Clinton not having a shot at winning Texas.

He's probably going to do a Jimmy Swaggart--just to keep his floor.  Otherwise, all that's left are the deplorables.

This is a bigoted statement, unless you're OK with a double standard.  Bigoted, in all likelihood toward Conservative Christians and much of the white working class.  Perhaps that's OK on Atlas; I doubt it's any more OK with God than Trump's conduct.  Or Bill's.  Or Hillary's.

I know some conservative Christians. They have their norms for personal conduct. I asked one what he thought about gay-bashing after I was gay-bashed. He said that gay-bashing was the worst possible witness against homosexuality.

I concur with them about the fornication of Bill Clinton -- it was inexcusable. But at least his fornication had some element of consent. The stuff about Donald Trump is new.  It would have ensured that he would have lost in the primaries had it then been known.

Donald Trump is going to try to spin this story. I know how it goes: first there is denial, then there is trivialization, then the accusation that everyone else does it or everyone would do it if given the chance... and then perhaps some histrionic confession. If it weren't so histrionic, then the infamous confession of the disgraced televangelist Jimmy Swaggart wouldn't have been such a sick joke. Yes, Jimmy Swaggart is  about as media-savvy a person as Donald Trump.

The secret to avoiding such disclosures is to not do the disgraceful deeds to begin with. Thus if you take the honor code of the Service Academies (basically do not lie, do not cheat, and do not steal and do not tolerate lying, cheating, or stealing by others -- wording varies but the message is the same) The secret to avoiding trouble from lying is to not do deeds that one would need to lie about to maintain a personal image. People do not lie for the sake of lying. But as I would expect a draft-dodger-turned-militarist to be unaware of the Service Academies' honor codes in any form or to consider them irrelevant (I have done substitute teaching, and I find this honor code a good standard for my conduct as a substitute teacher) I can see the danger of being Commander-in-Chief, having subordinate to oneself people who take such an Honor Code seriously, who has a record of sexual assaults that anyone would have to hide to maintain credibility as a person.  

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I would prefer that the President of the United States be as clean about sexuality at the least as Barack Obama or Jimmy Carter. The sexual assaults are serial adultery, a behavior that most decent, moral, hard-working Americans well know that they cannot get away with. Whether one is a conservative or a liberal has no bearing on whether what Donald Trump did is in any way excusable.    

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Using a private server  is something that one might do if one is not up-to-date on the dangers of technology. I am 60, and I am fully-tech-savvy... for 1980 or so. I am guessing that Hillary Clinton was furious when her husband was shown to have fornicated. But even with Bill Clinton there is some evidence of consent by the women involved.

Were I a conservative Christian I could not in good conscience vote for Bill Clinton -- or Donald Trump. I would have to vote for a candidate who shares my values in practice in personal life over someone who mocks them in his behavior.      

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The story has yet to fully sink in. White conservative Christians are generally more authoritarian and thus more amenable to the appeals of right-wing politicians who show such vices as greed, selfishness, cruelty, elitism, bigotry, anti-intellectualism, and violence.  The "feminist Left" and "secular liberals" were faster to recognize Donald Trump as a rogue.  But that is a correlation between politics and values. Conservative Christians are more likely to expect the worst of 'fallen Humanity' and tolerate some nastiness in political leaders, as Humanity itself is 'sinful'. But there are limits.  

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OK. Gary Johnson isn't going to win. Hillary Clinton may seem flawed now, but she can be better than you think. Donald Trump cannot be.
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