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pbrower2a
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« on: August 14, 2015, 01:01:55 PM »

"I'm Jewish and I find your shirt offensive"

"What this shirt?



I'm not discriminating against you now, you stupid over sensitive loser!"

I would find this one troubling, too... if I were an Ukrainian-American, among others:

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2015, 01:34:29 PM »

The Nazi swastika is unambiguous on what it stands for.

The Rising Sun Flag (Japan) was associated with unmitigated horror between 1937 and 1945 in most of the world and from 1906 in Korea, but after that it seems comparatively benign.

If I were an inmate at Bergen-Belsen, then the most delightful image that I could have seen was a Union Jack signaling "new management". Likewise if I were in Dachau or Mauthausen, I would have been delighted  to see Old Glory making its first appearance.

...The secret is to make sure that the political entities for which the flags stand do not become Evil Empires.   
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2015, 09:44:16 PM »

Naturally, the winners of history get to decide what their legacy is.

It is why the Allies weren't put before war crimes tribunal for firebombing Japan.

Total war.
 
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In contrast to the Nazis and Imperialist Japan, the Confederates were gentlemen.  The problem with the Confederacy was that the most fanatical supporters of slavery believed their own PR -- that slavery was a boon to the slaves. Slavery was doomed in the United States because the British model of emancipation was well suited to the United States.

We will never know what Lincoln was planning. The British solution meant that there would never be any slave revolts. Freedmen and their descendants would never become a fifth column who would serve anyone who would promise their emancipation.

Slaves commonly abandoned the plantations as the Union front came nigh. With such came the economic collapse of the Confederacy -- basically one plantation at a time. The Confederacy slowly starved.
 
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Maybe -- but the planters still dominated the political order in those states. 
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