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« on: December 24, 2021, 03:00:53 AM »
« edited: December 24, 2021, 03:16:46 AM by Marx »

You really should just read The Communist Manifesto , and read it broadly, as a prediction of the future as well as an address to the present of 1848: Marx predicted all you hate, and you can't stop it.

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The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part.

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers.

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.

The bourgeoisie has disclosed how it came to pass that the brutal display of vigour in the Middle Ages, which reactionaries so much admire, found its fitting complement in the most slothful indolence. It has been the first to show what man’s activity can bring about. It has accomplished wonders far surpassing Egyptian pyramids, Roman aqueducts, and Gothic cathedrals; it has conducted expeditions that put in the shade all former Exoduses of nations and crusades.

The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

You despise the inherent progressivity of bourgeois rule. You are incapable of stopping it. There is no.standing athwart History, yelling "stop" within the capitalist epoch. The future will be utterly unrecognizable to you. Capitalism is simply the forward progress of Capital, a literal disembodied social force or social abstraction presently being generated by humanity, which dislocates and will eventually destroy everything antecedent to itself.

Marx, for example, anticipates the abolition of the family within capitalism , not as a leftist policy goal but as a consequence of the inevitable, and irreversible, working out of Capital upon humanity.
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2021, 11:04:47 AM »

You really should just read The Communist Manifesto , and read it broadly, as a prediction of the future as well as an address to the present of 1848: Marx predicted all you hate, and you can't stop it.

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The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part.

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers.

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.

The bourgeoisie has disclosed how it came to pass that the brutal display of vigour in the Middle Ages, which reactionaries so much admire, found its fitting complement in the most slothful indolence. It has been the first to show what man’s activity can bring about. It has accomplished wonders far surpassing Egyptian pyramids, Roman aqueducts, and Gothic cathedrals; it has conducted expeditions that put in the shade all former Exoduses of nations and crusades.

The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

You despise the inherent progressivity of bourgeois rule. You are incapable of stopping it. There is no.standing athwart History, yelling "stop" within the capitalist epoch. The future will be utterly unrecognizable to you. Capitalism is simply the forward progress of Capital, a literal disembodied social force or social abstraction presently being generated by humanity, which dislocates and will eventually destroy everything antecedent to itself.

Marx, for example, anticipates the abolition of the family within capitalism , not as a leftist policy goal but as a consequence of the inevitable, and irreversible, working out of Capital upon humanity.

I guess that’s why these right-wing regimes only stick together so long as they are able to keep throwing people out of helicopters though I don’t necessarily believe that capitalism will destroy families. Families will always be here no matter what anyone does or thinks. As long as there are people, there will be families. Will they be what you want or be to your standards? Probably not. Then again, families were never the same for long.

It's a multi generational phenomenon. Towards the end phase of capitalist history, children will probably be raised collectively, creche-style, and educated from birth to work for corporations. They'll also probably be fully legally empowered from pubescence.
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