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« on: August 14, 2022, 10:02:46 PM »

Canada's supreme court decided a while back that Canada's charter of human rights required the availability of euthanasia for mental illness. Monstrous at every level.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2022, 12:51:43 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2022, 12:58:03 PM by The Bug Paste Box vs. The Ballot Box »

Two years ago I plumbed the absolute depths of pain and despair during a severe, yearlong bout of OCD in which my brain was pretty much on fire 24/7. In no waking moment could I escape the torture of my constant obsessions, and most nights they followed me into my dreams. I constantly believed that my irrational fears were true, and that this was a fate worse than death. Half a year of therapy and medication had accomplished nothing, and I was continuing to get worse. For a time it appeared that I was doomed to suffer in this condition for the rest of my life. Merely to be conscious in this period was an experience of torturous suffering.

Two years later, the condition is under control, I am for all intents and purposes fully recovered, and I am the happiest I've been in my entire life. I've always had very strong willpower, and even during the worst moments I hardly ever thought of suicide. However, if it were the policy of the state to not only allow doctor-assisted suicide as an escape route for people like me, I shudder in the fear that I may have gone that route, however unlikely it may have been. And if, as in Canada, they had actively pushed it on me... lord help me. Even here in the US I had to fight like hell to stop an aggressive pill-pushing "psychologist" from forcing me onto antipsychotics that would have turned me into a living zombie and possibly left me with Parkinsons-like side effects for life. Resisting the doctor's demands involved a direct appeal to the director of the program I was in, and required a degree of self-advocacy, persuasion, and willpower that a lot of people in these situations simply do not have.

This is despicable and evil. End of story. What the hell is wrong with Canada?
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2022, 07:42:59 PM »

Not saying this is wrong, but do you have a better source than the Daily Caller?

There was this story from Associated Press a few days ago, which paints a pretty harrowing picture, but I don't think it offers any claim that it is now a "leading cause of death".

https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c631558a457188d2bd2b5cfd360a867

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— Unlike Belgium and the Netherlands, where euthanasia has been legal for two decades, Canada doesn’t have monthly commissions to review potentially troubling cases, although it does publish yearly reports of euthanasia trends.

— Canada is the only country that allows nurse practitioners, not just doctors, to end patients’ lives. Medical authorities in its two largest provinces, Ontario and Quebec, explicitly instruct doctors not to indicate on death certificates if people died from euthanasia.

— Belgian doctors are advised to avoid mentioning euthanasia to patients since it could be misinterpreted as medical advice. The Australian state of Victoria forbids doctors from raising euthanasia with patients. There are no such restrictions in Canada. The association of Canadian health professionals who provide euthanasia tells physicians and nurses to inform patients if they might qualify to be killed, as one of their possible “clinical care options.”

— Canadian patients are not required to have exhausted all treatment alternatives before seeking euthanasia, as is the case in Belgium and the Netherlands.

I am genuinely at a loss of words.

In 2019, which I picked to avoid covid confounds, there were 307 thousand deaths in Canada. If Ontario and Quebec, which together make up more than half of Canada's population, are not listing euthanasia on death certificates, then it's safe to say euthanasia deaths are closer to 20,000 than 10,000. 20,000 out of 300 thousand is a substantial proportion. This is not something being used only in the worst of the worst situations.

Not saying this is wrong, but do you have a better source than the Daily Caller?

There was this story from Associated Press a few days ago, which paints a pretty harrowing picture, but I don't think it offers any claim that it is now a "leading cause of death".

https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c631558a457188d2bd2b5cfd360a867

Thanks. "Genuine, serious problems but still sensationalized even more by Certain Outlets" is about what I tend to expect is going on with news stories about ultraliberal euthanasia regimes these days.

Yeah. This is genuinely disturbing and someone needs to take a serious look into the Canadian health care system to see how it could have gone so badly off the rails, and put far more stringent regulations in place.

There is no Canadian health system, but 10 different provincial ones who only have to respect some very loose federal criteria to keep their federal funding.

That makes the situation even worse, not better.

It's clear that Canada is actively steering people it views as a burden toward "euthanasia". All of this only 6 years after they began allowing it in very limited circumstances. I can't help comparing this to Aktion T4, even though it is somewhat less heinous.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2022, 10:07:29 AM »

This isn't even big news here, so this is just a clickbaity article.


That doesn't make it any less bad - it simply means that either your media is not doing its job, the Canadian people as a whole have a badly broken moral compass, or both.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2022, 09:24:45 PM »

A Canadian veteran sought treatment for PTSD. His VA counselor allegedly suggested euthanasia instead

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/canadian-military-veteran-suicide-counseling-ptsd/
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2022, 02:26:07 PM »

I've known multiple people who have taken their lives legally this year.  It is devastating to see this is how Trudeau's Liberals are fixing Canada's broken health care system.  We need more privatization, and fast, to save this country from total collapse. We also need a stronger emphasis on morality, and the return of God to our school systems.  The left does not care about society's most vulnerable entities, whether that is the elderly, young children, or the unborn.  This is a prime example.


What really scares me about all this is that my mother has cancer, and she's had to wait months for treatment. If she wanted to, she could go to the States and get treatment the next day.  Sadly, she is of the generation that still has some faith in our government and its institutions, despite recognizing the failures of the Trudeau regime.  I hope this is not what ends up taking her life if treatment fails.  I cannot cope with any more loss.  Why is something like this even an option?  Will we see a point in the near future where people are simply killed off because they are a drain on state resources?  

Healthcare is a provincial power. Blame your Premier.

No.

Until Canada begins acting like a serious country, it deserves nothing but scorn on these matters.
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