Biden to grovel before Khashoggi's murderer/the Butcher of Yemen in exchange for lower gas prices.

[Aurelius]

There are a ton of other sources for cheap gas—Iran, Venezuela—and gas we are currently exporting for some reason that could be used by our people. Going to the Saudis and begging as the leading superpower and the only thing keeping them in power is more pathetic than building up our relations elsewhere.

Brandon's representatives already went on bended knee to Maduro.

The sane solution would be to thaw relations with Iran, a country far less bad than Venezuela or Saudi Arabia, but this is America and being stupid is what it does best.

The sanest solution would be to kill two birds with one stone and transition to renewable. But I guess that's a no-go, right, Biden?

The sanest solution would be to develop our own energy resources

Exactly what I said. Our own RENEWABLE energy resources. No more fossil fuels.

My 2001 dodge dakota doesnt run on solar and unicorn farts. No more green only policies.

There are plenty of cars that do. Just because you choose to drive a car that doesn't run on renewable energy doesn't mean there aren't any such cars. You can continue driving your Dodge Dakota. But we need to start moving towards green energy, and your owning a Dodge Dakota doesn't change that in the slightest. And how can there be 'no more green only policies' when there haven't been any green only policies to begin with?

This is one of the most hilariously, cluelessly privileged things I have read on this website. New cars are more expensive than ever. And the used car market is even more ridiculous.  Furthermore hybrid and electric cars are especially expensive, and the infrastructure for electric vehicles is an extra challenge especially if you don't own your own home with its own parking spot.  Soaring gas prices are already bad enough, but buying a brand new vehicle is even more expensive.  The median vehicle on the road is 11 years old. All the fancy new sensors and doodads that the government is now requiring on all new vehicles have shot prices through the roof.

Personal vehicles are also not the only thing affected. Diesel prices have soared even worse than gas prices, the national average is well above $5 a gallon,  And in 10 States it is above $6 a gallon. Everything we buy and use in our everyday lives is shipped to us on semi trucks that run on massive amounts of diesel fuel. Inflation is already bad enough as is, and these insane gas and diesel prices are going to make things much worse if we don't get them under control quickly.

[Aurelius]

There are a ton of other sources for cheap gas—Iran, Venezuela—and gas we are currently exporting for some reason that could be used by our people. Going to the Saudis and begging as the leading superpower and the only thing keeping them in power is more pathetic than building up our relations elsewhere.

Brandon's representatives already went on bended knee to Maduro.

The sane solution would be to thaw relations with Iran, a country far less bad than Venezuela or Saudi Arabia, but this is America and being stupid is what it does best.

The sanest solution would be to kill two birds with one stone and transition to renewable. But I guess that's a no-go, right, Biden?

The sanest solution would be to develop our own energy resources

Exactly what I said. Our own RENEWABLE energy resources. No more fossil fuels.

My 2001 dodge dakota doesnt run on solar and unicorn farts. No more green only policies.

There are plenty of cars that do. Just because you choose to drive a car that doesn't run on renewable energy doesn't mean there aren't any such cars. You can continue driving your Dodge Dakota. But we need to start moving towards green energy, and your owning a Dodge Dakota doesn't change that in the slightest. And how can there be 'no more green only policies' when there haven't been any green only policies to begin with?

This is one of the most hilariously, cluelessly privileged things I have read on this website. New cars are more expensive than ever. And the used car market is even more ridiculous.  Furthermore hybrid and electric cars are especially expensive, and the infrastructure for electric vehicles is an extra challenge especially if you don't own your own home with its own parking spot.  Soaring gas prices are already bad enough, but buying a brand new vehicle is even more expensive.  The median vehicle on the road is 11 years old. All the fancy new sensors and doodads that the government is now requiring on all new vehicles have shot prices through the roof.

Maybe try reading instead of having these knee-jerk reactions. I'm aware Teslas are unaffordable for most people (including my family, in case you think I come from an upper-class, elitist, Tesla-driving family or something). I noticed that Reactionary said his car was from 2001. When did I ask him to change that? When did I say that at all? We do need to transition to renewable. I literally clarified that I have no objection to Reactionary driving his Dodge Dakota, just as long as he wasn't using that to object to moving towards renewable. I understand that most cars used today are older and require oil/gas. Didn't object to that. We can nonetheless start moving to renewable energy. And again, like I said, it's not like eco-friendly cars don't exist. I get that they're expensive and too expensive for many of us, but it's not like cars like Tesla don't exist. I did not tell Reactionary to buy a new car - that would have been very cringey and out of line. I literally said that his driving his Dodge Dakota is perfectly all right with me. Please read the whole post in the future before responding.

I did read your whole post. The fact of the matter is that regardless of whether you say you're personally ok with him driving his truck, we are in a borderline national emergency with fuel prices right now and the idea we shouldn't do everything in our power to bring them down because ~green energy~ is absurd. We are allowed to deal with short term crises even if you think long term goals are in the opposite direction.

Side note: you've made 60 posts today (edit: and 175 in the past three days, good lord). There's no need to respond to every post you disagree with.

[Aurelius]

This is one of the most hilariously, cluelessly privileged things I have read on this website. New cars are more expensive than ever. And the used car market is even more ridiculous.  Furthermore hybrid and electric cars are especially expensive, and the infrastructure for electric vehicles is an extra challenge especially if you don't own your own home with its own parking spot.  Soaring gas prices are already bad enough, but buying a brand new vehicle is even more expensive.  The median vehicle on the road is 11 years old. All the fancy new sensors and doodads that the government is now requiring on all new vehicles have shot prices through the roof.

1/22 average new car price: $46,404
1/22 average used car price: $28,205
Base model Chevy Bolt (260 mile range): $32,000

This doesn't even get into the true cost of ownership: over the years, an EV owner will save thousands in combined fuel and maintenance costs compared to a combustion vehicle. It's already perfectly feasible and cost-effective to go electric if you're not looking for a higher end vehicle. For the Bolt specifically, taking into account all the major factors for the first five years of ownership (average maintenance costs, fuel costs, insurance costs, etc), buying the base model is roughly equivalent to buying a $24-25k combustion vehicle. Most people are idiots, however, and only consider the monthly sticker price rather than what they'll actually shell out over the lifetime of a car or the rare occasion they might drive 200+ miles in a single day.

None of this really matters, though: over the past year alone, the percentage of new vehicle sales that are EV went from 2% to over 6%. In a few years time, that share will likely be well north of 20%. Major manufacturers are already preparing for the 2030-2035 phase out of combustion engines. The simple fact is that oil is by far used for transportation, and even in just a few years, the amount of oil the US will need per capita is going to begin substantially dropping. What we use to power the replacement energy is a bigger concern.

Glad to hear I was wrong about this. Definitely a big change from a decade ago. The charging infrastructure is still a major issue for many.