Are all the crazy Obama rumors...

[Landslide Lyndon]

Alot of people, whether they mean to or not, associate being black with being "unpatriotic" or "unamerican."

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Didn't Jesse Helms believe that the civil rights fighters were communists trying to undermine democracy?
And hadn't Jeff Sessions said that NAACP and ACLU were communist-inspired organizations?
 

[Landslide Lyndon]

Alot of people, whether they mean to or not, associate being black with being "unpatriotic" or "unamerican."

...

Didn't Jesse Helms believe that the civil rights fighters were communists trying to undermine democracy?
And hadn't Jeff Sessions said that NAACP and ACLU were communist-inspired organizations?
 

Ah, yes. Now there are two people speaking on behalf of "most Americans" on issues of race.

That claim was never made. He was simply suggesting that alternative criticisms are created for particular people or movements to hide the true reasons behind one's opposition/discomfort.

Nobody is claiming that that equals a majority of Americans....as a majority of Americans doesn't believe the garbage.

I think he was using them as an example that "a lot" of Americans feel that way about blacks and that's pretty damn ridiculous.

Franzl is right. Even though in the 1960's and 70's when these accusations were made I wouldn't be surprised to see a majority of whites to agree with them.

[Landslide Lyndon]

But what you don't understand is that those comments about the NAACP and ACLU aren't necessarily beliefs that blacks themselves are un-American. The NAACP and the ACLU (I don't even know why they're mentioned) don't dictate what it means to be black.

Come on Phil! You aren't that naive.

Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that Reagan's ''welfare queen'' and the Willie Horton ads weren't really race-baiting.

[Landslide Lyndon]

[Again, disapproval of the NAACP and ACLU =/= thinking blacks are "un-American." Save your paranoia and handwringing for someone else.

And, again, I have no idea why the ACLU is even mentioned here.

I mentioned ACLU because the ranking Republican in the Judiciary Comitte called it "un-American" and "Communist-inspired".

As for the other, you seem to be thinking that your opinion is somehow representative of the opinion of the majority of Republicans or Americans. If there wasn't a (big) constituency for that kind of rhetoric, then politicians wouldn't engage in it. Just remember the scorn poured on Dukakis about his ACLU membership.