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Landslide Lyndon
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« on: December 28, 2018, 11:51:27 AM »

Not a lot of new stuff but it goes to show how fringy and anti-Democrat all these Sanders die-hards are.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/bernie-sanders-beto-orourke-feud-2020-campaign-democratic.html

Contrast Favreau’s big tentism with this rebuke of O’Rourke by Jilani: “He has become a uniting figure for Democrats, beloved by all and loathed by none. What kind of Democratic politician can be so adored? Maybe one who rarely, if ever, challenged the powerful.” Liberals like Favreau are aiming to unite the party. To a leftist like Jilani, O’Rourke’s ability to appeal across the breadth of the party is a reason to reject him. Turning the primary into a faction fight is not a pitfall to be avoided but the very goal.

Baffled liberals, many still nursing wounds from 2016, see the passionate intensity of the Bernie movement as a personality cult, propelled by unthinking devotion to him (or spite at the party that they believe rigged the primary against him). It is anything but. The socialist left belongs to Sanders simply because there is no other presidential candidate who meets their exacting ideological criteria. They see O’Rourke as a threat to their project because, in important ways, he is.
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Landslide Lyndon
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2018, 02:03:43 PM »

How is David Sirota represenative of everything Bernie Sanders ever does?  

LOL, Sirota is to Sanders what Begala or McAulliffe are to the Clintons.
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Landslide Lyndon
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2018, 03:57:25 PM »

Agree, but the handful of Democrats that, other than Sanders, have the best chance of winning, are all suspect on the key issues I mentioned.


Maybe because, you know, they believe these policies are ill-advised.
Vermont and California, perhaps the two most liberal states in the union, tried to implement single payer and failed.
Most progressive economists think that a 15$ minimum wage would be disastrous for poorer states where the cost of living is much lower.
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Landslide Lyndon
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2018, 04:12:26 PM »

Agree, but the handful of Democrats that, other than Sanders, have the best chance of winning, are all suspect on the key issues I mentioned.


Maybe because, you know, they believe these policies are ill-advised.
Vermont and California, perhaps the two most liberal states in the union, tried to implement single payer and failed.
Most progressive economists think that a 15$ minimum wage would be disastrous for poorer states where the cost of living is much lower.

Agree on $15, strongly disagree on UHC.  It failed because of a lack of political will and scare tactics, though I wouldn't implement it on the level of government that doesn't have control over monetary policy.  It's worked in a ton of developed countries and our healthcare system has failed for everyone that isn't upper middle class or higher.

The political will vanished when they realized how much they should raise taxes on the middle class to fund the system.
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