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Southern Reactionary Dem
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« on: July 07, 2022, 03:21:21 PM »

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3526315-mortgage-rates-hit-5-78-percent-in-record-spike/

"Mortgage rates hit 5.78 percent in record spike"

Excellent.  The rate rises are starting to have the intended effect.  There is much more to go.

The problem with inflation is that wages aren't going up as fast as prices, which hurts real wages. On the other hand, raising interest rates to increase borrowing costs and generate a recession also hurts real wages. Fiddling around with monetary policy doesn't really solve the problem. The issue as always is with the real economy.

As far as deficits, yes, the government can continue to comfortably run them, as demand for the dollar remains strong relative to other currencies.

Wages almost never keep up in these situations but the issue of demand for the US dollar does worry me long term. Saudi Arabia is already weighing accepting Chinese Yuan for oil instead of dollars and the likes of Russia, China, Brazil, India and South Africa are teaming up to create a new alternate reserve currency backed by hard assets. Oil is the most important commodity and a lot of our allies depend in part on our adversaries that have oil. Our status as the world reserve currency is more in danger than people realize.
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Southern Reactionary Dem
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2022, 03:38:21 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2022, 04:00:21 PM by Southern Reactionary Dem »

More bizarre and misinformed points from jaichind:
1. The federal government faces borrowing costs that are unprecedented....over the past four years. In 2018, nominal interest rates on 10-year treasuries were similar. Of course, the real interest rate of a 10 year treasury note is negative at the moment. It's unclear how jaichind can motivate his claims about interest rates today having an impact on the level of interest payments going forward in light of this. If markets are tanking in response to rate hikes that are projected to bring the federal funds rate to their maximum in 2018, give or take a few 0.5 percentage points, this something about the neutral rate of interest as well.
2. Bluntly, his last paragraph is masturbatory. However much he might wish for there to be a fiscal reckoning, however much he might wish for Russia to defeat Ukraine, none of this is necessary. Zero justification is provided for his fantastical claims.

Here's my prediction: I think it's far more likely that the US experiences a deflationary episode by late 2023 than for the US to suffer another year where the headline rate of inflation exceeds 4 percent. In fact, my baseline prediction is that in 2023, the headline rate of inflation will be lower than 2 percent. The core rate of inflation will likely exceed 2 percent or something like this. To be clear, the transmission lag of monetary policy is very long - usual estimates are that it takes at least 4 quarters for the impact of rate hikes to be fully-felt. The best guess is that it takes ~8-9 quarters.

We're still in a regime of secular stagnation, where governments can basically run ponzi schemes. You may return to usual business in another year. Prices will be moderate, growth will be sluggish and economics will be boring again soon.

What makes you think inflation will be under control by then? I can see interest rate hikes, even small ones, cooling off the asset/equity bubbles we've been seeing that were inflated largely by low-interest debt... but what I don't see is how commodities naturally resolve themselves. There too much at play outside of the fed's control. Worker productivity has been in decline for a few quarters now (maybe people leaving the workforce and fueling labor shortages?), widespread drought is killing crop yields, sanctions from the Ukraine war situation are driving up global oil prices, especially with diesel where North American sour crude isn't as amenable to refining low sulfur diesel, there's bird flu infecting chickens and the higher interest will likely also significantly slow private sector investment into increased output across the board. Not to mention, prices have gone up most among necessities like oil and food... understandably the last things most people cut from their budget as they are necessary for the activities such as being alive and commuting to work. To me this feels like a coming period of prolonged stagflation.
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Southern Reactionary Dem
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2022, 05:43:29 PM »

More bizarre and misinformed points from jaichind:
1. The federal government faces borrowing costs that are unprecedented....over the past four years. In 2018, nominal interest rates on 10-year treasuries were similar. Of course, the real interest rate of a 10 year treasury note is negative at the moment. It's unclear how jaichind can motivate his claims about interest rates today having an impact on the level of interest payments going forward in light of this. If markets are tanking in response to rate hikes that are projected to bring the federal funds rate to their maximum in 2018, give or take a few 0.5 percentage points, this something about the neutral rate of interest as well.
2. Bluntly, his last paragraph is masturbatory. However much he might wish for there to be a fiscal reckoning, however much he might wish for Russia to defeat Ukraine, none of this is necessary. Zero justification is provided for his fantastical claims.

Here's my prediction: I think it's far more likely that the US experiences a deflationary episode by late 2023 than for the US to suffer another year where the headline rate of inflation exceeds 4 percent. In fact, my baseline prediction is that in 2023, the headline rate of inflation will be lower than 2 percent. The core rate of inflation will likely exceed 2 percent or something like this. To be clear, the transmission lag of monetary policy is very long - usual estimates are that it takes at least 4 quarters for the impact of rate hikes to be fully-felt. The best guess is that it takes ~8-9 quarters.

We're still in a regime of secular stagnation, where governments can basically run ponzi schemes. You may return to usual business in another year. Prices will be moderate, growth will be sluggish and economics will be boring again soon.

I think the core question is: After this set of interest rates increase cycle is done will real interest rates revert to historical levels (positive) or will we revert to the financial repression of 2008-2022.  If real interest rates do revert to positive levels then given the large debt to GDP ratio the interest costs will mean that primary spending will have to decline as a % of GDP.  If financial repression comes back then that can only take place in a period where we are running below potential GDP or else there will be an inflationary surge.  I totally accept it is possible that the future might be more of 2008-2022 where the USA economy keeps on running below potential GDP which means financial repression can take place without an inflationary surge.  I am just subjectively claiming that this seems unlikely.

We really need positive interest rates. Cheap debt means prices of assets rise to be commensurate with borrowing power instead of wages/savings and savings accounts are absolutely useless thanks to net negative interest rates robbing them of value. This is detrimental to the poor who are overwhelmingly less inclined to invest their money in the artificially inflated markets. The rich benefit from the debt fueled growth while the poor fall further into the hole. Just another way to silently redistribute wealth to the top.
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