UK General Discussion

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No doubt Brown'll have left a few of the more aggressively right-wing lobby hacks gob smacked yesterday.

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I'm not watching, but apparently the PM's coming off badly at Leveson. Something about "Yes We Cam" and more cringey Brookes texts.

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'Cringey' is really quite, quite, quite the understatement.

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Which means...

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By which I mean something different to what the Honourable Member for Witney means.

"We're all in this together" is definitely dead as a slogan now then.

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Didn't realise that this complete mess was our fault as well
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18422949

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Andrew Rosindell admires Pinochet

Great, give Romford more bad rep, why don't you?

Thatcherism at its finest.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/13/mitt-romney-in-discussions-to-meet-david-cameron-in-london_n_1592872.html

An insanely rich guy who thinks he's totally normal whilst he flip-flops on every possible issue? He'll get on with Nick and Dave just fine.

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Erm...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jun/17/benefits-striking-low-paid-workers-docked

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You can tell it's a Tory government, can't you?

It's stuff like that which'll make it difficult for the Libs to play the "we stopped them from being slash-and-burn Tories" card in 2015. They have to vote stuff like this through as well to make it work.

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The GMB will be submitting a resolution at the Labour Conference in September to outlaw Progress. 
OMG OMG I hope this works, though I have a gut feeling it won't. 

It's like they want all out party civil war.

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So Jimmy Carr's a tax exile, who've thought it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HXibReHW3UA

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Yet another brilliant idea from number 10:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18567855

That just seems nonsensical!

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Political Scrapbook have dug up a photo of Danny Alexander at a party with a pro-€ pressure group from just before the Greek election! Even when they're not being Tories, the LibDems are crap.

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/06/danny-alexander-britain-in-europe-party/

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If Progress had a 'grip' on the Party then David Miliband would be leader. Parliamentary selections are also a red herring: that process is now more 'democratic' (as the term is usually understood) then it ever has been (fixing still happens all the time, because that's politics. And it doesn't all go one way). A relatively high percentage of new MPs will tend to have some link or other to Progress because Progress attracts careerists; very much a chicken/egg situation. And, obviously, careerists present better at selection meetings than other people (for the most part). Of course the big issue is the rather stupid decision of its funder (someone by the name of Sainsbury) to stop his donations to the Party when his favoured candidate lost a leadership election, but to continue to fund Progress. That looks bad.

Anyways, the most that can happen would be Progress declared a banned organisation (or whatever term is currently used) for Party members to also be members of. Though, tbf, this whole thing reeks of a two bald men and a comb situation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/25/lib-dem-tim-farron-progress-party-conference-letter_n_1623479.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics
Tim Farron is hilarious.

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Instant Paxman classic. You can almost see her career (and Norwich North) falling away from her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bddWaHuxTzc

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Yeah, Paxman back at his best.

Anyway....so, yeah.

Two people I hate shaking hands in one photo. Lovely.

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Instant Paxman classic. You can almost see her career (and Norwich North) falling away from her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bddWaHuxTzc

She didn't even answer the question about whether she ever thought she was incompetent.  I note that if you type "chloe" into Google the auto-complete suggests "chloe smith newsnight".

Is it true that Cameron appointed Smith to the Treasury because he thought she was an accountant when she actually wasn't?

Wouldn't be shocked. It was a speedy appointment when Fox went and it seemed like an obscure pick at the time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2052046/David-Cameron-gave-MP-aged-29-Treasury-job-wrongly-thinking-accountant.html

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The GMB will be submitting a resolution at the Labour Conference in September to outlaw Progress.  
OMG OMG I hope this works, though I have a gut feeling it won't.  

It's like they want all out party civil war.

Well, with me being me, I really hope they at least force the party to reverse their support of the wage freeze and Ed Balls's statement that he won't guarantee that any cuts will be reversed.  But I really would like to see the Blairites forced out of the party.  It'll get the Labour party back to being an actual social democratic party again.  I also hope that if they can't ban it, then they can at least break Progress's grip on the party (especially when it comes to selection of prospective parliamentary candidates.  And policies, too.)

This makes me happy, so happy. Deranged Labour left wing trying to make itself unelectable again. Why don't they go the whole hog and install Neil Kinnock as leader again, that'll make Cameron look competent.

One more thing. You do realize its a wage freeze. Not a cut a freeze. Do you understand that there are some people who work outside the great god the public sector. That they might enjoy an easing in the burden of taxation that goes to pay for the salaries of greedy, wasteful shysters public sector workers, who think they are somehow hard done by. I mean at least you could sympathize with the miners for doing a hard, unpleasant job. These people are just a total rip off.

How is a public sector worker any less worthy than someone who works in a business? Typical Tories. And a wage freeze amount to a cut when you consider inflation and all that.

Would you tell your doctor or your child's teacher that they're not worth the money they're paid?

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I don't recall a teacher (or lecturer or whatever) saying 'the welfare state is sacred, we must worship it', but maybe I wasn't paying attention at the time.

You get the general idea.

The only time i've heard anything similar was in RE. From sections of the Bible.

Catholic schooled by the way.

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I don't recall a teacher (or lecturer or whatever) saying 'the welfare state is sacred, we must worship it', but maybe I wasn't paying attention at the time.

You get the general idea.

The only time i've heard anything similar was in RE. From sections of the Bible.

Catholic schooled by the way.

Basically the same for me, my RE teacher has made a few comments about helping the homeless etc but nothing more explicit than that. The only other teacher which I know anything about is my history teacher and even that is quite subtle, and he tries his hardest to be objective (He's mentioned his sympathy for the Greeks and strong dislike of the poll tax). What I'm saying is anyone who thinks there is a widespread plan to indoctrinate children in British schools is deluded at best, because there is no evidence for it.

My A-level Politics teacher exposed views, which would be expected. Never told us who he voted for, mind.

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So, leadership speculation's sprung up around Liam Fox this morning. He'd be stupid enough to try, of course.

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So, leadership speculation's sprung up around Liam Fox this morning. He'd be stupid enough to try, of course.

Go Liam Fox!

I'd support him in any leadership election, of course, but even the Tories wouldn't choose a disgraced former cabinet minister. Right?

He'd only run to make a point.

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So, leadership speculation's sprung up around Liam Fox this morning. He'd be stupid enough to try, of course.

Go Liam Fox!

I'd support him in any leadership election, of course, but even the Tories wouldn't choose a disgraced former cabinet minister. Right?

He'd only run to make a point.

Sadly, your probably right. The Tories will get stuck with that git Osbourne as leader if Cameron miraculously wins in 2015. If not, it might be Boris Johnson, or maybe Gove. Right-Wing candidates might include Grant Shapps or Owen Paterson.

All retarded rightists, expecially that moron from Eton, Johnson, basically the closest thing British politics has to a GOP'er.

Mitt Romney and David Cameron will find they have a lot in common when they meet next month.

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Someone mind explaining to me how Ed Balls is supposed to have helped rig LIBOR eventhough he was Education Secretary at the time?

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Someone mind explaining to me how Ed Balls is supposed to have helped rig LIBOR eventhough he was Education Secretary at the time?

Because Labour were responsible for everything that went wrong in the last 13 years?

Can't help but feel sorry for Ed Balls, he gets such a bad wrap.

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This explains a lot.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/05/louise-mensch-i-did-class-a-drugs-and-they-messed-with-my-brain_n_1652693.html?utm_hp_ref=uk