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« on: August 09, 2010, 11:46:12 AM »
« edited: August 09, 2010, 11:56:44 AM by change08 »

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My guess is that a Lab minority is coming to Scotland. Would they really coalition with the Liberals while attacking the Westminister Liberals for doing just that with the Tories?
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 12:58:13 PM »

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2987

Labour majority.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 12:51:48 PM »

The AV referendum result will apparently delay the result until the Saturday

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/scotland/Holyrood-result-to-be-delayed.6706200.jp

If the use those %*£!ing machines again we'll know the result by next year Roll Eyes

Bloody hell. Roll Eyes You'd think they'd try and be more efficient if they're gonna spend £100 million on a referendum.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 12:16:40 PM »

TNS-BMRB/Herald:

Constituency
44 (-5)
29 (-4)
12 (+3)
11 (+4)

Regionals
39 (-8)
29 (-4)
11 (+2)
10 (+3)
6 (+3)

Seats (from Scotland Votes)
59 (+13)
39 (-8)
12 (-5)
12 (-4)
6 (+4)
1 (nc)

TNS changed their methods, explaining the big swings here. Also, the last TNS was quite suspect anyway - Labour was up on 49%.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 01:09:15 PM »

Which of the following is most likely?

Labour/Green coalition
Labour/Liberal
Labour minority
SNP minority
SNP/Green
SNP/Tory
SNP/Liberal

I've been reading about Labour/Green or SNP/Tory trying to form if the numbers are there...
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2011, 03:52:44 PM »

New poll; was on STV earlier - not sure who it was by

Labour  38/35
SNP      37/35
Tory     15/14
Lib Dem  7/8
Green     -/5

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2011, 04:22:54 PM »
« Edited: March 28, 2011, 04:25:04 PM by Refudiate »

It was by The New Saints, so is best ignored.

Still, the movement away from Labour towards the SNP (and the Tories?) is undoubtable and I hope that Miliband and Gray are worried by it.

I can't see a Scots Labour government being able to do much with a 1 or 2 seat lead since the Tories and the SNP are hardly viable partners and Lab-Lib bridges seem to be very much on fire.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 10:21:35 AM »

As long as the SNP remain strong, relative to their 2007 performance, it will be very difficult due to the maths with the D'Hondt system for the parties outside of the main four to make any seats. It is unlikely that the Greens will make much advance on their current 2 seats. It is increasingly likely that there won't be the Green presence Labour need to get a majority.

It is important to note that both the Lib Dems and the Tories have said that the arrangement that existed from 2007-11 allowing a minority government (and quite the minority at that) to hold power will not be tolerated. So a minority government is not on the cards.

Labour have not had a good relationship with the other parties at Holyrood. The Parliament structure, it's comittee's and it's compactness promotes close association. Labour will sit at committee and oppose, the Tories and the Lib Dems will negotiate and the pattern repeats itself. The last Budget, in which every party (bar the Greens) got concessions was a good example of this level of co-operation. But Labour voted it down, despite getting what they wanted.

Remember, that the shock of 2007 was that the Liberal Democrats were not willing to go into any coalition with Labour. They were burnt out. They will be even more burnt out this time. An informal 'supply' deal with the Tories could be tempting. It would allow both parties to be safe face publically. But if the gap between Labour and the SNP is close, you can bet that the SNP will try and get in there first.

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Also. First of the Leader's Debates tonight Smiley

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2011, 12:10:45 PM »

I'm feeling that Salmond will still be FM after the election... If that was the case, May 5th would be a crap night for Lib, Lab and Con, bit like last year I guess.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2011, 02:09:57 PM »

Yup, the SNP are staying. Bad times for Ed.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 02:37:43 PM »

Lab, 36. SNP, 9. Greens, -4. Liberals, -7. Tory, -10.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 03:15:28 PM »

lolmorgothpress

(see their cover from the last election for the cause of the laughter)

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Anyway... so far at least do we seem (the record of Scottish polls being a little dodgy at times - though better than the ones out here, naturally) to be seeing Labour boosted by better Labour turnout, while the SNP benefit from switchers from the national Coalition partners? I mean in crude generalising terms.

SNP 2007 votes are going to Labour and 2007 Lib/Con voters are making up for it, and more. Crudely.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 06:05:40 PM »


Eugh.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2011, 04:08:43 PM »
« Edited: April 20, 2011, 04:10:47 PM by Refudiate »

Poll due tonight reportedly places the SNP 'close to a majority'

Given the sort of numbers needed for that, sounds like an outlier or something by one of those dubious little outfits, but better to wait and see.

It's for Newsnight apparently, so...
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2011, 05:10:25 PM »

10% regional and 11% const lead for the SNP. Just nearly choked on my Pepsi.
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2011, 05:15:21 PM »

Well, Gray won't be Leader of the Opposition much longer anyway, whether his constituents sack him or the party does...
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2011, 05:49:48 PM »

Alex Salmond has just ruled out a coalition with the Tories. It was never on the cards anyway; it's barred in the SNP's constitution Grin

Is it? How so? I never knew Tongue

But anyway, I'm sure the Liberals will be all too happy to be a junior partner. They'll end up as avid nationalists the day after the election.
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2011, 06:03:54 PM »

Alex Salmond has just ruled out a coalition with the Tories. It was never on the cards anyway; it's barred in the SNP's constitution Grin

Is it? How so? I never knew Tongue

But anyway, I'm sure the Liberals will be all too happy to be a junior partner. They'll end up as avid nationalists the day after the election.

The likely outcome is an SNP minority government with a continued 'confidence and supply' agreement with the Tories.

I thought all sides were aiming for a coalition this time round.
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2011, 07:57:02 PM »


Ipsos Mori for The Times and Newsnight Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2011, 07:48:32 PM »
« Edited: April 21, 2011, 08:10:13 PM by Refudiate »

Finally got round to watching the debate. Does Iain Gray know it's not a great idea to be a lecturer and talk down to voters? ANYONE would be put off by him!

Alex Salmond is... Alex Salmond.
Goldie comes across as competent.
Tavish comes across quite well, if quiet, could never vote Liberal though. Nick Clegg came across well too, last year.
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2011, 03:48:11 PM »

Two new polls to give SNP 'significant' leads.

Atleast Ed still has the locals (hopefully)...

A bad night for all 3 parties really. A bit like last year.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2011, 07:41:27 PM »

The Wedding and all the Union Jacks-a-flyin' to knock a point or two off the SNP's poll rating?
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2011, 04:45:12 PM »


I thought that was common knowledge...
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2011, 02:47:16 PM »

What are the chances of the Liberals becoming Scotland's 5th party?
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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2011, 03:30:59 PM »

Holyrood constituency: CON 15%(-2), LAB 27%(-6), LDEM 10%(-7), SNP 45%(+11)
Holyrood regional: CON 16%(+2), LAB 25%(-4), LDEM 9%(-2), SNP 38%(+7), Green 8%(+4)

From TNS
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