Happy Bloody Monday!

[Pres Mike]

Lol, I still can't believe Sanders and his supports thought that 30-ish % in each state was going to be a winning coalition in that primary.

That strategy worked back when there were multiple opponents occupying the moderate/conservative lane, but once that lane was reduced to a single candidate, it was no longer viable.

Sure, but the the fact that there was no longterm strategy for when those loser candidates would eventually dropout (as they certainly would've done post-Super Tuesday) is pretty shocking to me. Just goes to show the importance of staffing your campaign with reasonable strategists rather than true believers.

I am a big political junkie and all the democrats dropping out shocked me. Obvious in hindsight, but I thought they were all delusional.

I did not understand how there could be a dozen democrats in the primary polling at 1%. I thought Buttigieg was delusional. I thought they were all delusional and greedy to stay and fight it out at a contested convention. Make sense the Sanders camp thought the same thing.

Sanders plan was to win a pluraity at every state and expect to be handed the nomination at a contested convention. Make sense. If Sanders had the most votes and delegates and did not win the nomination, Democrats would have lost in a landslide.

[Pres Mike]

Nothing at all suspicious about Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropping out literally hours before Super Tuesday, even with Klobuchar's home state voting that day. I try not to think about it too much, because what's done is done, but the way that many Democrats acted toward Sanders and his supporters is one of the reasons I eventually decided not to affiliate myself with the party.

It's not "suspicious", it's basic political strategy. It was clear from polling that Pete and Amy weren't going to be competitive in most states, so they dropped out and endorsed the next best option according to their politics.

You progressives are exactly like QAnon when something doesn't go your way, it must have been a massive conspiracy or everything was "stolen". Or maybe the "evil money" (Jews) did it, like Nina Turner suggested.

There's a special kind of kool-aid you have to drink to honestly believe that Klobuchar and Buttigieg just dropped out on their own volition. Especially as Pete is now currently the head of DoT. No promises or deals made? lol

You say that as if Secretary of Transportation is a choice job that a viable Presidential candidate would drop out in exchange for. A large minority (if not half) of Americans probably don't know that Buttigieg is the current Secretary, and I'd be willing to bet that >90% of Americans can't name one former Secretary of Transportation.

Klobuchar is doing essentially the same thing she was doing in 2019, so I don't even see what she supposedly got out of the deal.

I'm sure there were behind-the-scenes discussions that led to them dropping out, but I fail to see how the existence of a "deal" is obvious, particularly when Klobuchar got nothing.

I agree. I don't think a deal was ever made for the other moderates to drop out.

That said, why would a deal need to be made? Obama called Klobuchar and Buttigieg and encouraged them to drop out. If they were offered something, that would have leaked by now.

Most likely, they need the faster they dropped out the better possible future job they would get. It only took one. Booker, Beto, Klobuchar and Buttigieg all endorsed Biden within 24 hours. No one wanted to be the last one to endorse Biden to help their future careers.

Even Warren did this. Why did she wait until after Super Tuesday to drop out? She wanted to hurt Bernie, with the hope of being Biden's VP. Was a deal made? No but she decided to take this course for her own career.

[Pres Mike]

5. How would you have stopped "Bloody Monday"? Force candidates to stay in the race? No, of course not, that's completely impracticable. Ban candidates from making endorsements? Holy First Amendment violation Batman. Literally, how on earth could you stop candidates from dropping out of an election and/or making endorsements? Because, let's be clear, that is all that we know happened.

All these things we've known for three years now. You can make a case that the DNC played dirty tricks to stop Bernie in 2016, but it is very clear what happened in 2020, and it wasn't foul play.

I think what angers a lot of Bernie supporters is the fact that several canididates, despite having no chance, swore they were going to stay in to the convention.

I remember people like Cory Booker giving interviews saying they were in for the long haul.

How many debates did we have with several canidiates polling 0-1%?

A lot of people found it hard to belive a bunch of self serving politicans suddenly changed course