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« on: January 19, 2022, 03:10:01 PM »

Definitely. It would be great to be commander in chief. It is probably my dream job, but since it's very unlikely to happen, I've tempered my expectations to the US Senate or the US House (or maybe a governership).
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2022, 03:24:01 PM »

I mean, kinda moot point for me, but no lol. Being a political leader is way too much stress.

Well, if I was president I'd alleviate some of that stress for me by not caring about reelection; I'd do whatever I want without any concern about midterms or reelections or any of that. I'd just do whatever good I can in whatever time I have.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2022, 05:08:26 PM »

I mean, kinda moot point for me, but no lol. Being a political leader is way too much stress.

Well, if I was president I'd alleviate some of that stress for me by not caring about reelection; I'd do whatever I want without any concern about midterms or reelections or any of that. I'd just do whatever good I can in whatever time I have.

Figuring out how to do good effectively and avoid messing up is the most stressful part of all! (At least if you care about that to begin with)

True.

Anyway, one of the things I'd do is use the nuclear codes to bomb Pyongyang for several hours straight.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2022, 05:26:35 PM »

I mean, kinda moot point for me, but no lol. Being a political leader is way too much stress.

Well, if I was president I'd alleviate some of that stress for me by not caring about reelection; I'd do whatever I want without any concern about midterms or reelections or any of that. I'd just do whatever good I can in whatever time I have.

Figuring out how to do good effectively and avoid messing up is the most stressful part of all! (At least if you care about that to begin with)

True.

Anyway, one of the things I'd do is use the nuclear codes to bomb Pyongyang for several hours straight.

...ok well with that attitude maybe stress isn't a concern for you

I'm serious. I was reading Wikipedia pages about North Korea and its dictatorship about a week ago and I began to realize just how terrible life in North Korea must be. There are human rights abuses and life is literally a living hell - if you think our leaders are even remotely authoritarian, research North Korea and you'll realize it could be much, much, much worse (I'm not telling you specifically, I'm using it as a general term to anyone reading this post). So...yeah. And aside from that there are safety issues, since North Korea is working on nuclear weapons and successfully conducted a test a while ago. Who knows what they might do. So it's probably best to preempt them and just eliminate them and liberate millions of oppressed North Koreans (basically, like the argument George W Bush made to invade Iraq in the early 2000s, except this one is based on what is publicly known to be true and isn't covered in lies and distortions).

And anyway if the job is too stressful I could worst case just resign. But would be good to at least try and see what I can do first, right? Maybe I could free North Korea, work to fix the environment, reduce or end affirmative action and excessive welfare, reduce gun violence, tackle the debt or any combination of those, and if I can, I will have helped the US and/or the world, which would be great. Maybe I could even be Trump and appoint a handful of justices to SCOTUS, which would make my legacy even bigger.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2022, 05:48:09 PM »

So your solution to the North Korean regime committing atrocities against the North Korean people is to... simply murder millions of North Koreans?

That makes absolutely no sense

I emphasize Pyongyang. Living in Juche Korea is honestly probably not much better than being dead, and those people will need to die, but it will be for a good cause because the rest of North Korea will be free, and it's probably not like they're enjoying life much anyway; what happens in North Korea is really a half-life.

(EDIT: Also I wouldn't bomb the whole Pyongyang, just the parts of the city where Kim and his closest allies/advisors live, and then send US troops to shut down all the reeducation camps.)

So your solution to the North Korean regime committing atrocities against the North Korean people is to... simply murder millions of North Koreans?

That makes absolutely no sense

Can't be subject to atrocities if you're already dead.



Unironically, this isn't really false. First of all, the majority of North Korea will finally be free, and secondly, death probably isn't much worse than being forced to spend your whole life with every move you make being dictated and with pretty much no chance of escape.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2022, 11:03:29 AM »

I mean, kinda moot point for me, but no lol. Being a political leader is way too much stress.

Well, if I was president I'd alleviate some of that stress for me by not caring about reelection; I'd do whatever I want without any concern about midterms or reelections or any of that. I'd just do whatever good I can in whatever time I have.

Figuring out how to do good effectively and avoid messing up is the most stressful part of all! (At least if you care about that to begin with)

True.

Anyway, one of the things I'd do is use the nuclear codes to bomb Pyongyang for several hours straight.

...ok well with that attitude maybe stress isn't a concern for you

I'm serious. I was reading Wikipedia pages about North Korea and its dictatorship about a week ago and I began to realize just how terrible life in North Korea must be. There are human rights abuses and life is literally a living hell - if you think our leaders are even remotely authoritarian, research North Korea and you'll realize it could be much, much, much worse (I'm not telling you specifically, I'm using it as a general term to anyone reading this post). So...yeah. And aside from that there are safety issues, since North Korea is working on nuclear weapons and successfully conducted a test a while ago. Who knows what they might do. So it's probably best to preempt them and just eliminate them and liberate millions of oppressed North Koreans (basically, like the argument George W Bush made to invade Iraq in the early 2000s, except this one is based on what is publicly known to be true and isn't covered in lies and distortions).


This guy really read about all of the human rights abuses in North Korea and thought "how can I be worse than that?"

No...the goal is to liberate North Korea, and to keep the number of civilian deaths low. Sad if you think that's even comparable to what Kim is doing right now.

And let me ask you a very genuine and frank question, if I might (it's fine if you don't want to answer): If given a choice between spending the rest of your life, with virtually zero chance at escape, in an extremely authoritarian dictatorship that pervades and dictates every aspect of everyday life, and a quick, painless death - which would you choose?
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2022, 12:29:30 PM »

I mean, kinda moot point for me, but no lol. Being a political leader is way too much stress.

Well, if I was president I'd alleviate some of that stress for me by not caring about reelection; I'd do whatever I want without any concern about midterms or reelections or any of that. I'd just do whatever good I can in whatever time I have.

Figuring out how to do good effectively and avoid messing up is the most stressful part of all! (At least if you care about that to begin with)

True.

Anyway, one of the things I'd do is use the nuclear codes to bomb Pyongyang for several hours straight.

...ok well with that attitude maybe stress isn't a concern for you

I'm serious. I was reading Wikipedia pages about North Korea and its dictatorship about a week ago and I began to realize just how terrible life in North Korea must be. There are human rights abuses and life is literally a living hell - if you think our leaders are even remotely authoritarian, research North Korea and you'll realize it could be much, much, much worse (I'm not telling you specifically, I'm using it as a general term to anyone reading this post). So...yeah. And aside from that there are safety issues, since North Korea is working on nuclear weapons and successfully conducted a test a while ago. Who knows what they might do. So it's probably best to preempt them and just eliminate them and liberate millions of oppressed North Koreans (basically, like the argument George W Bush made to invade Iraq in the early 2000s, except this one is based on what is publicly known to be true and isn't covered in lies and distortions).


This guy really read about all of the human rights abuses in North Korea and thought "how can I be worse than that?"

No...the goal is to liberate North Korea, and to keep the number of civilian deaths low. Sad if you think that's even comparable to what Kim is doing right now.

And let me ask you a very genuine and frank question, if I might (it's fine if you don't want to answer): If given a choice between spending the rest of your life, with virtually zero chance at escape, in an extremely authoritarian dictatorship that pervades and dictates every aspect of everyday life, and a quick, painless death - which would you choose?


Life is an inalienable right, full stop. If you want to keep the number of "civilian deaths" low, presumably that would preclude violating international law and committing war crimes by, you know, bombing civilians.

Fair enough but it's not like North Korea is holding their side of the bargain either. They violate the UN's orders and the UN keeps asking them to stop with their human rights abuses, but North Korea hasn't played ball. I might first consult with the UK and France and other such allies and discuss their opinion; if the backlash is too strong, I might cancel, but the goal would actually be to persuade them to join. Life is an inalienable right, which is why, like I said, we would be careful to avoid hitting civilians as much as possible, mainly just wherever Kim and his closest advisors happen to be.
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Schiff for Senate
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2022, 12:31:45 PM »

I mean, kinda moot point for me, but no lol. Being a political leader is way too much stress.

Well, if I was president I'd alleviate some of that stress for me by not caring about reelection; I'd do whatever I want without any concern about midterms or reelections or any of that. I'd just do whatever good I can in whatever time I have.

Figuring out how to do good effectively and avoid messing up is the most stressful part of all! (At least if you care about that to begin with)

True.

Anyway, one of the things I'd do is use the nuclear codes to bomb Pyongyang for several hours straight.

...ok well with that attitude maybe stress isn't a concern for you

I'm serious. I was reading Wikipedia pages about North Korea and its dictatorship about a week ago and I began to realize just how terrible life in North Korea must be. There are human rights abuses and life is literally a living hell - if you think our leaders are even remotely authoritarian, research North Korea and you'll realize it could be much, much, much worse (I'm not telling you specifically, I'm using it as a general term to anyone reading this post). So...yeah. And aside from that there are safety issues, since North Korea is working on nuclear weapons and successfully conducted a test a while ago. Who knows what they might do. So it's probably best to preempt them and just eliminate them and liberate millions of oppressed North Koreans (basically, like the argument George W Bush made to invade Iraq in the early 2000s, except this one is based on what is publicly known to be true and isn't covered in lies and distortions).


This guy really read about all of the human rights abuses in North Korea and thought "how can I be worse than that?"

No...the goal is to liberate North Korea, and to keep the number of civilian deaths low. Sad if you think that's even comparable to what Kim is doing right now.

And let me ask you a very genuine and frank question, if I might (it's fine if you don't want to answer): If given a choice between spending the rest of your life, with virtually zero chance at escape, in an extremely authoritarian dictatorship that pervades and dictates every aspect of everyday life, and a quick, painless death - which would you choose?

Dropping nuclear bombs on a city the size of Chicago for several hours is not something you would do if you had any consideration for civilian life, and death by nuclear attack is anything but quick and painless. I'd absolutely take being an average person living in a dystopian dictatorship over something so horrifying - and even if I would make the opposite call, it'd be pretty sick to think I have the right to make that call for three million people

I'd largely agree - except like I said, I would only bomb the part with Kim and his close advisors in it. Of course civillians would still be killed but way less would. The main goal would be taking out Kim and his allies. Heck, it doesn't even need to be a bombing - it could be helicopters coming where Kim is and gunning him down, though I'm unsure if that would work out as planned.
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Schiff for Senate
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2022, 08:09:40 PM »

So your solution to the North Korean regime committing atrocities against the North Korean people is to... simply murder millions of North Koreans?

That makes absolutely no sense
CentristRepublican is very young which is why he might have some rather… stupid solutions to problems. No slight to him, I was the same way when I was his age.

Citation?
Although I admit my comment was only half-serious and hyperbolic, and I realize that it does sound extreme. Obviously I know quite little on North Korea / foreign affairs. So if I did become president, now that I think about it, I'd probably be more sensible and consult with foreign policy experts / military experts on what we should do against North Korea first, and then do something (if not a bombing, which I realize in retrospect was tongue-in-cheeck, then maybe a very well planned assassination, though I know it would violate international law).
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