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« on: February 14, 2020, 10:40:45 AM »

Keep telling yourself he's a Democrat.



The United States had one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world prior to the Trump Tax Cuts.  It was 35%.  Trump lowered it to 21%.  Bloomberg wants to raise it to 28%, right in the middle of the two.  Oh, the heresy!

Notice how Bloomberg also says that the individual tax cuts (mostly on upper income individuals) were bad.  He wants to raise the income tax in the top bracket and raise the capital gains tax.  You can read all the details of his real tax plan here.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/01/billionaire-mike-bloomberg-calls-for-tax-on-incomes-over-5-million.html

or, you can get your information from Rose Twitter.  It wont be accurate, but it will make you feel angry, which I guess is kind of like feeling good.

Why on earth does this Bernie Bro asshole Walker Bragman keep getting posted on Atlas?  This guy literally wrote an article in 2016 called "The Liberal Case for Donald Trump."  That ought to discredit him from political analysis for life.

And corporations get around that by hiding money in tax havens. I guess that the Panama Papers were must a conspiracy theory.

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act makes that nearly impossible. In a best case scenario for a company, half of all tax haven income (which still largely requires some proof of activity or risk borne) is now immediately subject to US tax and often more than that.
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Sprouts Farmers Market ✘
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 07:49:41 PM »

I think the punters are overestimating the chances of a complete Biden collapse versus a campaign in decline that cannot win but still get a bunch of votes and still a significant bloc of delegates.   
Exactly. Bernie's ace in the hole could be a lack of consolidation of the moderate vote before it is too late.

Unlike the Republican primary, Bernie can win every state and not have a majority of delegates due to the vastly more fair proportional system. And he won't win every state. If he loses the south, it creates enough of an illusion of a split field even as he leads in delegates.
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Sprouts Farmers Market ✘
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2020, 03:13:57 PM »

Any Mike 2020 supporters want to explain the WaPo article?  The campaign doesn't even appear to have an explanation beyond "it was 25 years ago, he was a different person then."  But if he's running on his experience as a CEO, well, that's what he's running on, and that experience as a CEO includes, apparently, telling pregnant employees to get an abortion, regularly objectifying women with sexually explicit comments in front of their colleagues, abusively berating female employees for a variety of things, casual sexism and racism, etc. and it's not just one or two quotes, or only coming from one source, it's a whole mountain of them coming from a multitude of sources.

I've seen and heard a lot of Bloomberg over the last decade and would never have guessed that he was that kind of guy.  He always seemed calm and thoughtful, curious, detail-oriented, mild-mannered but confident, determined to look at both sides of every issue yet passionate about the things he cares about.  That's the kind of guy I think would make a great president.

And yet, this WaPo story seems unimpeachable and paints a completely different portrait of what he is, or was, like behind the scenes.  At my company we have to take these courses from HR every year telling us how not to behave, and we joke about how exaggerated or obvious some of the examples are, yet these are things Bloomberg is quoted as having said or done.  How on earth did he get elected in NYC?  There must be more to the story.

Not one bit of this is surprising about him. The man is 78 years old. There is no such thing as him watching an HR video. He is the reason for those HR videos. He was in the same friend group with Trump, Clinton and Giuliani. These were seen as the best America had to offer.

He was elected literally two months after 9/11 - in a much different city than exists today. The make-up of every outer borough was very different than their 2020 stereotypes. Bloomberg didn't even become the candidate of Manhattan as he is so stereotyped until he needed them for his illegal third election power grab that he so narrowly eked out.
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