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« on: May 11, 2021, 02:14:33 PM »
« edited: May 11, 2021, 02:21:05 PM by Chuck Grassley/Kyrsten Sinema Stan »

She’s a fairly weak candidate. I think that she is actually overestimated in this forum.

She has a lack of appeal to the electorate and has zero charisma. And no, it has nothing to do with her race or gender. There are minority women out there who have actual charisma and can inspire turnout. Harris doesn’t have any of those qualities, she’s no Barack Obama.
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2021, 02:18:25 PM »
« Edited: May 11, 2021, 02:21:29 PM by Chuck Grassley/Kyrsten Sinema Stan »

Agreed. Harris has always been a mainstream center-left Democrat, I don't see why she would perform significantly worse than any other Democrat. Plus, I think she's a strong candidate for the suburbs and the sunbelt, which will be especially important for Dems going forward. As long as she chooses a decent running mate, I think she has a good chance of winning the general.


How is she strong in the sunbelt? I can maybe get Georgia, but she’s a horrendously bad fit for Nevada, Texas, Arizona, and particularly Florida.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2021, 02:28:14 PM »

Harris was literally responsible for turning what was supposed to be a landslide for her party into a close race last year, by turbocharging racist voter turnout. She is clearly weak.

Whaaat? There's no evidence Harris hurt Biden's electoral chances. The day she was announced as VP, but Biden broke records in small donations from all over the country. She also did well at the VP debate and helped to turn out black voters in GA.


LMAO no.

She came across as extremely whiny, similar to an annoying middle school English Teacher I’m sure we all had, and performed horribly, what are you talking about? There’s a reason the Biden campaign barely used her in the actual campaign itself.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2021, 02:37:38 PM »

Harris was literally responsible for turning what was supposed to be a landslide for her party into a close race last year, by turbocharging racist voter turnout. She is clearly weak.

Whaaat? There's no evidence Harris hurt Biden's electoral chances. The day she was announced as VP, but Biden broke records in small donations from all over the country. She also did well at the VP debate and helped to turn out black voters in GA.


LMAO no.

She came across as extremely whiny, similar to an annoying middle school English Teacher I’m sure we all had, and performed horribly, what are you talking about? There’s a reason the Biden campaign barely used her in the actual campaign itself.



Far from it. That's vibe with Warren. 

Many times when Kamala speaks she comes across as a dumb wine mom/Karen, except she isn’t white. Her performance in the debate reminded me a ton of a particularly terrible English teacher I had.
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2021, 04:15:08 PM »

It's certainly suspicious that people feel so strongly about someone who's basically a generic Democrat. She'd need to learn from her mistakes from 2019 if she were to run for president in 2024, but I don't buy that she'd be DOA against DeSantis.

DeSantis almost lost to this.  https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/10/23/records-show-fbi-agents-gave-andrew-gillum-tickets-to-hamilton-in-2016/  She is far from DOA.

Remember when Gillum was considered to be the next Obama and would definitely win Florida by 7? Good times.

People act like Gillum was always seen as a joke candidate when everyone was lavishing praise on him back in 2018 like he was a star.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2021, 09:29:23 PM »

Harris was literally responsible for turning what was supposed to be a landslide for her party into a close race last year, by turbocharging racist voter turnout. She is clearly weak.

Whaaat? There's no evidence Harris hurt Biden's electoral chances. The day she was announced as VP, but Biden broke records in small donations from all over the country. She also did well at the VP debate and helped to turn out black voters in GA.


LMAO no.

She came across as extremely whiny, similar to an annoying middle school English Teacher I’m sure we all had, and performed horribly, what are you talking about? There’s a reason the Biden campaign barely used her in the actual campaign itself.



Far from it. That's vibe with Warren.  

Many times when Kamala speaks she comes across as a dumb wine mom/Karen, except she isn’t white. Her performance in the debate reminded me a ton of a particularly terrible English teacher I had.

Whatever personal grief you have with Harris or whoever this English teacher does not deny that she performed well in that debate and receive praised all around.

No she got schooled by Pence and looked like an idiot. Obama vs Romney first debate vibes
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2021, 09:30:37 PM »

She’s a fairly weak candidate. I think that she is actually overestimated in this forum.

She has a lack of appeal to the electorate and has zero charisma. And no, it has nothing to do with her race or gender. There are minority women out there who have actual charisma and can inspire turnout. Harris doesn’t have any of those qualities, she’s no Barack Obama.
Yeah, she's overestimated. She would 100% underperform Biden 2020 in terms of states (apart from NC), but I remember a thread which asked which Biden 2020 states Harris would lose, and no red avatars would name any.

She would underperform Biden in NC IMO. The only state she does as well or similar in is maybe GA but even then, I doubt it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2021, 11:34:11 AM »

Harris was literally responsible for turning what was supposed to be a landslide for her party into a close race last year, by turbocharging racist voter turnout. She is clearly weak.

Whaaat? There's no evidence Harris hurt Biden's electoral chances. The day she was announced as VP, but Biden broke records in small donations from all over the country. She also did well at the VP debate and helped to turn out black voters in GA.


LMAO no.

She came across as extremely whiny, similar to an annoying middle school English Teacher I’m sure we all had, and performed horribly, what are you talking about? There’s a reason the Biden campaign barely used her in the actual campaign itself.

Now you're really just talking out of your ass. And by the looks of how many times you posted on this one thread, your hatred for her is a bit unhealthy.

Anyways, none of this is true. The campaign didn't "barely" use her. She hosted multiple high profile fundraisers, conducted several solo rallies and events, appeared during every campaign PSA, and took part in a couple of interviews with Biden himself. I don't think there's ever been a campaign that has been so willing to use the VP nominee as this one.

As for the debate, it is quite clear that she made a very favorable impression on the American people with her performance:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/harris-pence-vp-debate-poll/

1) Literally every presidential campaign does that? I don’t remember Harris being used at all after the VP debate however. It was all Biden.

2) 538 polls for 2020 are automatically invalid due to their terrible sampling. Didn’t Nate Silver predict that Biden would win Wisconsin by double digits, Texas tilt and Florida lean?

You seriously expect me to believe that? Don’t insult my intelligence like that ever again.
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