Iowa <3 Gay Marriage

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It's little surprise that the reactionists are whining about this, nor is it of any affair: the Republican Party has always hated freedom and liberty. The idea that the individual is a self-willing, rational creature capable of making his or her own life-choices is anathema to them; rather, everyone must subscribe to a system of 'morality' set down by Bronze Age goatherders.

I highly doubt that this would have been the result of a referendum on the matter, which is a fine demonstration of the fact that a 'true democracy' is impossible: it will always devolve into a tyranny of the majority. I nevertheless congratulate the people of Iowa on the fact of the matter that their state has led a persecuted minority that much closer to true freedom.

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I see you're all more optimistic than I am!

Amending Iowa's constitution is a lot harder than amending California's. First, they have to get both the house and senate to pass the amendment. There are substantial Democratic majorities in both houses now (56-44 in the house, and a whopping 32-18 in the senate), and they blocked the anti-gay-marriage amendment in the last session.

Second, they need to wait for the next legislative session and pass the amendment again. Then, if it hasn't died, it goes on the ballot for a popular vote. Even in the worst-case scenario, I figure we have at least two years before gay marriage could possibly be made illegal in Iowa.

Moreover, the amendment needs to be passed by two consecutive general assemblies. Each one lasts for two years, and there would be an election in the middle. So I figure that gives us gay marriage at least until November 2012. That's more than three years. Until then, the unbridled freedom of the individual to make his own choices in life is guaranteed.

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More from the Wall Street Journal:

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While the conservatards were hyperventilating over Massachusetts and California, gay marriage snuck into flyover country.

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no surprise.  As I've stated before, there is a reason why the New Testament uses the Genesis story of Lot in Sodom as a picture of the deliverance of believers during the endtimes.

If gays can get married and enjoy civil rights while simultaneously advancing the Rapture and the return of Christ for people who believe that to be the outcome, then it becomes a win-win situation in the eyes of both, no?

no, because in the end, the sexual immoral will be condemned.

But, hey, I was simply remarking why I am not surprised.

Of course. Because your faith is your crutch, and you mistakenly believe everyone is as crippled as you.

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no surprise.  As I've stated before, there is a reason why the New Testament uses the Genesis story of Lot in Sodom as a picture of the deliverance of believers during the endtimes.

If gays can get married and enjoy civil rights while simultaneously advancing the Rapture and the return of Christ for people who believe that to be the outcome, then it becomes a win-win situation in the eyes of both, no?

no, because in the end, the sexual immoral will be condemned.

But, hey, I was simply remarking why I am not surprised.

Of course. Because your faith is your crutch, and you mistakenly believe everyone is as crippled as you.

Don't you have a class to teach right now, Doctor?

I'm going to school you momentarily.

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no surprise.  As I've stated before, there is a reason why the New Testament uses the Genesis story of Lot in Sodom as a picture of the deliverance of believers during the endtimes.

If gays can get married and enjoy civil rights while simultaneously advancing the Rapture and the return of Christ for people who believe that to be the outcome, then it becomes a win-win situation in the eyes of both, no?

no, because in the end, the sexual immoral will be condemned.

But, hey, I was simply remarking why I am not surprised.

Of course. Because your faith is your crutch, and you mistakenly believe everyone is as crippled as you.

Don't you have a class to teach right now, Doctor?

I'm going to school you momentarily.

Feisty, eh?

Stupidity excites me.

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Stupidity excites me.

Well, with that "girlfriend" gone, you must have a lot of time for self pleasure.

You're pornography enough for me.

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Stupidity excites me.

Well, with that "girlfriend" gone, you must have a lot of time for self pleasure.

You're pornography enough for me.

Professor,

I don't think that is grammatically correct.

It's grammatically correct, but awkward - one should avoid writing like that where feasible. But I don't care.

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Let's face it, this sh**t won't end until it goes to the federal level. And I can hear the "activist judges" yelping already. But I'm glad to see that somebody finally cried out "the Emperor has no clothes" on these bullsh**t anti-gay marriage arguments like "encourage procreation" or "optimal child-raising environment" or "preserve traditional definition". I have never heard an anti-gay marriage argument that sounded sincere, as in "I actually sincerely believe the logic of this argument and always have", as opposed to "I think I hit upon a clever argument to keep those nasty gays out". The homophobe movement is dishonest to the man, and none but the most simplistic of adherents actually believes the nonsense they spout.

Here's the text of the opinion summary from http://www.iowacourts.gov/wfData/files/Varnum/40209Varnumsummary.pdf

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This is by far the most succinct argument for gay marriage that I have ever read. It touches every base and systematically refutes the most bone-headed, religiously motivated arguments against it. I applaud the Iowa Supreme Court for formulating such a brilliant, meticulous opinion.

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Hooray for the destruction of families!  Good job pointyheaded judges of Iowa!

Pssst! I don't want to dissapoint you, but this is 2009, not 2004.

Whoops!  Sorry, I'm still stuck in 2004.  So much in American society has changed since  then!

There is a reason why every society that embraced gays has collapsed. 

The Greek civilizations lasted 1,200 years, from the era of the Minoans until the rise of Alexander. It was an integral way of life in Sparta (600 years), Athens (400), Thebes especially (500), etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes - which was defeated, incidentally, by the greatest general who ever lived, another homosexual.

That's significantly longer than puritanical, WASP-y America.

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no surprise.  As I've stated before, there is a reason why the New Testament uses the Genesis story of Lot in Sodom as a picture of the deliverance of believers during the endtimes.

If gays can get married and enjoy civil rights while simultaneously advancing the Rapture and the return of Christ for people who believe that to be the outcome, then it becomes a win-win situation in the eyes of both, no?

no, because in the end, the sexual immoral will be condemned.

But, hey, I was simply remarking why I am not surprised.

do you think divorce should be legal?

this is not a question of legality, rather it's a question of forced recognition.

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no surprise.  As I've stated before, there is a reason why the New Testament uses the Genesis story of Lot in Sodom as a picture of the deliverance of believers during the endtimes.

If gays can get married and enjoy civil rights while simultaneously advancing the Rapture and the return of Christ for people who believe that to be the outcome, then it becomes a win-win situation in the eyes of both, no?

no, because in the end, the sexual immoral will be condemned.

But, hey, I was simply remarking why I am not surprised.

do you think divorce should be legal?

this is not a question of legality, rather it's a question of forced recognition.

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no surprise.  As I've stated before, there is a reason why the New Testament uses the Genesis story of Lot in Sodom as a picture of the deliverance of believers during the endtimes.

If gays can get married and enjoy civil rights while simultaneously advancing the Rapture and the return of Christ for people who believe that to be the outcome, then it becomes a win-win situation in the eyes of both, no?

no, because in the end, the sexual immoral will be condemned.

But, hey, I was simply remarking why I am not surprised.

do you think divorce should be legal?

this is not a question of legality, rather it's a question of forced recognition.