The South

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If the South doesn't want to surrender its worthless culture in exchange for aid from Northern liberals, then by God it ought not receive any help at all. You can want in one hand and sh*t in the other for all I care.

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And these are the morons who whine and cry and piss and moan about 'socialism'.

Let's look at the number of Southerners who have been President in the last forty years:

Lyndon Johnson
Jimmy Carter
G.H.W. Bush (debatable)
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush

vs.

Richard Nixon
Gerald Ford
Ronald Reagan

No more Affirmative-Action for Scots-Irish trash. Let them earn it.

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Also note that Obama won 5 out of the bottom 7.

Also note that he won three of the top seventeen formerly-red states. That doesn't mean anything.

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If you want to be liberal, then you have to treat everybody you meet like an individual and not attach labels to them.

You're describing libertarianism, buddy, not liberalism, which has always taken humanity as a gestalt.

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If you want to be liberal, then you have to treat everybody you meet like an individual and not attach labels to them.

You're describing libertarianism, buddy, not liberalism, which has always taken humanity as a gestalt.

 You measure humanity by getting to know the individual, not knowing where they are from. Treating people as individuals and being against prejudice is one of the first principles of liberalism, it is in England anyway.

English liberalism is a more libertarian version of American conservatism; it has nothing to do with New Deal politics.

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Do many of you listen to yourself talk? If things are so wonderful everywhere else, why not leave? I'd rather like here than in states where a race might riot at any time.

Here we go again, with that good ol' "The South is the REAL 'MURRICA!!!" rhetoric. Dumbass, that doesn't work, you people were the ones who left the Union.

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This is stupid, you people are saying you hat the south because we don't believe like you do. That just makes you a bigot.

If you classify a history of sexism, racism, and homophobia as "beliefs" then I feel sorry for you.

That crap occurred all over the place. You're really dense if you believe it only happened in the South. You refused to respond to my argument about California and other non-southern states banning gay marriage. Typical. Just because you repeat an argument full of holes doesn't mean it will become true.

Compare the figures on gay adoption in Arkansas to those on proposition 8. Which state is more bigoted, again?

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Also Marokai Blue if you don't like the US, Canada is only a few hours away, move there.

More of the same from the moron defending a region that left the United States en masse. But hey, that's okay, I understand you assholes have to project your guilty consciences somehow.

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Also Marokai Blue if you don't like the US, Canada is only a few hours away, move there.

More of the same from the moron defending a region that left the United States en masse. But hey, that's okay, I understand you assholes have to project your guilty consciences somehow.

The south did what they said they were going to do. Put up or shut up. Canada isn't far away. Both of you can move there if you harbor that much contempt for parts of this country.

Did I say I was going to leave the United States, redneck? Why don't you stop putting words in my mouth and go back to working your plot of land or whatever it is you cowpokes do down there. You inbred morons don't have a monopoly on the United States.

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You don't see me opining on northern culture, which I know nothing about so why must you insist on boxing in the South into a narrowminded framework

You do a damn fine job of it yourself by trying to foist your Southern values on the North. We're predominantly Anglo-German; you people are mostly Scots-Irish. It's only natural that we ought to be more soberly-minded in our political proclivities.

I am tired of groups like Focus on the Family (headquartered in Colorado, to be certain, but funded almost exclusively by Southern reactionists) trying to meddle in Northern politics by funding crusades against gay marriage. Crawl into your Southern turtle-shells if you want, but leave us out of it.

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This is stupid, you people are saying you hat the south because we don't believe like you do. That just makes you a bigot.

If you classify a history of sexism, racism, and homophobia as "beliefs" then I feel sorry for you.

That crap occurred all over the place. You're really dense if you believe it only happened in the South. You refused to respond to my argument about California and other non-southern states banning gay marriage. Typical. Just because you repeat an argument full of holes doesn't mean it will become true.

Compare the figures on gay adoption in Arkansas to those on proposition 8. Which state is more bigoted, again?

Arkansas is a thoroughly Democratic state and produced one of the better presidents this country has ever had, certainly his record improves by comparison every day that Bush stays in office. Bush did the same things that LBJ did and was surprised that it did the exact same damage to the economy

No, you're not going to get away with that. We all know exactly what sort of Democrats live in Arkansas, and who their candidate was in the 1968 Presidential election. And Bush and Johnson were absolutely nothing alike in their fiscal policies.



Man, those Arkansans are so tolerant.

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First, Bush and Johnson absolutely were alike. Both of them presided over large increases of the federal judgement, in Johnsons case, federal programs, in Bush's case, pork, both spent untold sums on quagmire wars, and both cut taxes while increasing federal spending.

I just love how conservatives want to unload Dubya now so as to make your movement look better. It's the same sort of thing you did after Nixon's failed Presidency, no?

At any rate, any similarities between the two are superficial (and it's awfully hypocritical for any Southern to rail against pork-barrel spending, when that's the only goddamned thing proping up a number of your state economies). Where were Bush's social programs?

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1968, fool.

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Forty years ago, I'd have been a dyed-in-the-wool Republican of the Rockefeller Wing, and I'm not rich. Civil liberties mean a Hell of a lot more to me than the economic conditions of the predominant race. 

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Yes, we understand that Southerners are envious of anyone with a semblance of higher education. But you don't have to screech about your anti-intellectualism every chance you get. It's really a turn-off.

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You edited your post so it said 1968, fool.

OH NOEZ TEH TYPOS!!!!

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And on the obverse we've got Liberty University, Piedmont Baptist College, Arlington, and other Fundamentalist hell-holes to balance them out.

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You're such a goddamned moron. Point out where I explicitly stated that Wallace was anything other than a showman and I'll concede. But, point blank, Southern whites voted for him in massive numbers because they believed that he'd re-institute segregation. There's no getting around what they believed he'd do.

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That's the worst sort of conservative: a collectivist, a Southern freeloader off the back of Northern Labor.

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C'mon, people, let's sing...

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