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Purple State
Junior Chimp
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« on: June 25, 2009, 03:24:27 PM »

Aye ftr.

In before the sign. Wink
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 03:37:54 PM »


     The current test says"fewest first preferences". Wording it this way makes it ensures that a tie results in a runoff, which means more election fun for everyone.

     You are right that it has been de facto law for a long time, but as Jas pointed out it may not have an actual basis in Atlasian law. This amendment makes sure that it does.

I'm not so sure about that... Elections are like candy. They're fun in moderation. But too much and you might get sick...

Uhm, Mr. President. It's on your desk....

I see that... I will have to ponder this for a short while more.

I see the point about run-off elections. One would likely have considerably lower turnout. It likely wouldn't be viable (or accepted) to do as the US does and send a tie to the legislature to break. Could we find a solution that accepts this amendment, but avoids a run-off?
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Purple State
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2009, 03:46:00 PM »

I think run-off elections should be an absolute last resort. If there is any reasonable way to determine a winner from the original election, then I believe we should always take that route.

Would you support sending ties to the Senate to break? Or break a tie based on whomever won the majority of the regions?
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 11:21:15 PM »

     I don't see ties as being common enough that breaking them with runoffs is a negative proposition, though it might be interesting if they were broken by a Senate vote.

While they would appear to be infrequent (to say the least), imagine what a run-off in the presidential election would mean. Could you really come close to matching the turnout from the original election? It was be a disaster, with people lobbying for vote changing. It just allows for too many problems.

I say we look to implement the tie-break by region first, that way it doesn't fall onto anyone's shoulders directly, while also providing a provision that if that results in a rare tie, it goes to the Senate.

I would be happy to work on comprehensive voting reform in the next Senate. I headed the initiative to do that in the Mideast as Speaker.
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Purple State
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2009, 09:16:31 PM »

Aye
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Purple State
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 08:37:55 PM »

Can't we at least tackle all of these issues with one piece of legislation? Tongue

And be straightforward and clear? Why? Wink

I would like to hear what people thought of our earlier discussion though. We definitely should work to clarify how to work ties out, regardless of how rare they may be.
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