Vice-Presidential Election Amendment [At Final Vote]

[Purple State]

I'm more of a toss-up on this. I think it's a fresh idea, and I thank Frittz for bringing it to the table.
This is just a suggestion, not saying I support it, but what would others think of having the Top 2 candidates for President become President and Vice President?

Can you imagine a Lief/PiT government?

I think there is merit to allowing the possibility of having a fierce critic in a prominent position. Someone who may disagree ideologically with the President could potentially lead to greater accountability.

However, I don't agree with the "Top 2 candidates" approach, as I do believe they should be distinct if this is done.

[Purple State]

I'm more of a toss-up on this. I think it's a fresh idea, and I thank Frittz for bringing it to the table.
This is just a suggestion, not saying I support it, but what would others think of having the Top 2 candidates for President become President and Vice President?

Can you imagine a Lief/PiT government?

I think there is merit to allowing the possibility of having a fierce critic in a prominent position. Someone who may disagree ideologically with the President could potentially lead to greater accountability.

However, I don't agree with the "Top 2 candidates" approach, as I do believe they should be distinct if this is done.

I just have these crazy ideas that the executive branch shouldn't consistently undermine itself.

Accountability is what we have a Senate for.

The Senate is constructed in a way so as to impede it from exercising a bully pulpit, whereas the executive offices, including the Cabinet, have an immense opportunity to define the debate.

This goes both ways. At the moment, a ticket allows for interesting mixes that lead to coalition cabinets and a mix of voices at the top; on the other hand, this proposal would prevent the real possibility of a monopoly on the bully pulpit.

Again, I don't necessarily support this measure outright, but I do think it is worth, counter to what you stated, to actually have the discussion. Of course, I'm a game reform nut and I recognize that we can't all be me.

[Purple State]

On afleitch's point, perhaps we could involve the VP more in the Senate by making the VP the "eleventh" senator. It wouldn't actually change very many votes (as it would essentially serve to bolster the majority or break ties), but it would make the position a more active one.

[Purple State]

Just my thoughts: Vice Senators would add way too many seats to the game, drastically reducing, if not completely eliminating competition in elections.

[Purple State]

This is the first cloture vote in quite a while. Since Fritz's cloture vote I believe two senates ago? And before that who even knows.

[Purple State]

I think the best evidence for why to vote Nay on this is the current situation. If it were PiT in the VP slot right now, I highly doubt Lief would have given up his power to make PiT acting President. Instead, because Lief could trust BK, he took a leave, which allowed BK to immediately come in as acting President and do a fantastic job.