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Purple State
Junior Chimp
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« on: October 13, 2009, 01:40:01 AM »

I'm not so much interested in the basic premise of this group as much as where it seems to be going. I would support removing regional Senate seats, perhaps in favor of a 7 seat At-Large Senate, with an Upper chamber that handles more constitutional/regional representation matters. It could be more of a yes/no than an amending body, giving a thumbs up/down with instructions and recommendations.

In fact, I wouldn't mind abolishing the presidency and instituting an oligarchy that serves this function with a presiding officer (whoever gets the most votes) that would serve as the body's PPT and appoint Cabinet officials for approval by the Senate.

As seen here, you could do some pretty freaky stuff with this. Worth thinking about.
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Purple State
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 01:45:14 AM »


Yes, after experimenting with some pretty freaky stuff. Of course, I did always hope that those seeds would start popping up sooner or later. And hey, that drove activity in Atlasia for a while and led to some pretty substantive ideas about game reform, many of which are now accepted law.
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Purple State
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 10:38:06 AM »

Hmm, despite best intentions of reforms by well-intentioned and intelligent reformers, these attempts have always seemed to failed or fall short of passing.

That means we have a chance. The support of a Senator (and a regional one !) would be very helpful for our cause. Smiley

That wouldn't be a good move in a tight race, fyi

And it isn't like the support of one person is crucial. It usually falls short by much more than 1 vote.

You're not a person, you're a Senator, and one of the best. So you have certainly the opportunity to push for this sort of reforms. If we make reasonable choice and manage to convince people, then we can change things.

The problem is, there are so many variations on the same ideas that there is no middle-road to gather a consensus around. While it is easy to envision at least one DA Senator siding with the RPP Senators to kill any proposed amendment, it is even easier to imagine a JCP Senator doing the same thing.

We need a balance that just gets too complicated and loses too many people during calibration.
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Purple State
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,713
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 12:24:43 PM »

Hmm, despite best intentions of reforms by well-intentioned and intelligent reformers, these attempts have always seemed to failed or fall short of passing.

That means we have a chance. The support of a Senator (and a regional one !) would be very helpful for our cause. Smiley

That wouldn't be a good move in a tight race, fyi

And it isn't like the support of one person is crucial. It usually falls short by much more than 1 vote.

Yeah but its called vote-swinging and it works.

This is the one topic it usually doesn't work in. Game reform, as opposed to most other things we do here, has an actual impact on game play and the forces of inertia are sizable here.

But hey, you can try and I'm happy to take part in the discussion. It is sort of a rite of passage for semi-new members. Everyone does it at one point or another.
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