California independence updates

[justfollowingtheelections]

http://www.dailynews.com/government-and-politics/20161224/is-california-splitting-away-group-believes-california-should-form-its-own-nation?source=most_viewed

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[justfollowingtheelections]

Uh... even in California, this would lose 70%-30%. It might even provide a rally round the flag effect for Trump in 2020 and get him to 40% in the state.

Nothing would get Trump 40% of the vote in California. Just because people might vote against a secession effort doesn't mean they suddenly become Trump fanatics.

One thing that got completely ignored during this election is the fact that there was no GOP senate candidate running in California. Unfortunately, they adopted that nonsensical LA system where the top two vote getters are put on the general ballot.

Imagine how many republicans stayed home because they knew there was absolutely no point in showing up. Trump wasn't going to win the state, and they had no Republican candidate to vote for in the senate. So why bother?

I guarantee that this cost Trump at least 5 percentage points.

Why is it nonsensical?  A Sanchez/Harris was more competitive than any race between Harris and a Republican.  If the real race is the Democratic primary why not move it November when more people vote and also give the opportunity to everyone, including non-Democrats to vote?

[justfollowingtheelections]

In the far-fetched scenario that the hypothetical proposition in question even makes it on the ballot, I would be absolutely astonished if it doesn't go down in a historic landslide. 

Brexit was supposed to be hypothetical, and when it wasn't (Thanks Cameron), it was supposed to go up in smoke...neither happened.

Enough trump failures, enough far-right agenda advancing at the cost of Californian values, enough polarization in general, enough people not caring jack about the consequences and this could very well gain traction AND pass.

Highly improbable [as in, another attempt by SNP to take Scotland out of the UK is more likely], but not impossible.

Exactly.  Lets not dismiss this so soon.  No one expected the U.S.S.R. to collapse either.  But it happened.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Uh... even in California, this would lose 70%-30%. It might even provide a rally round the flag effect for Trump in 2020 and get him to 40% in the state.

After two years of Worst Trump (or even Pretty Bad Trump) this could be far closer than anyone thinks right now. Especially if he's fighting with Silicon Valley.  A hypothetical liberal-libertarian anti-Trump alliance could have real legs in CA.

Every time the Dems lose an election, Californian independence gets brought up. Every time Republicans lose an election, Texan independence gets brought up. The other 48 states wish California and Texas would get over themselves.

Maybe those other 48 states should give California a few more Senators.