EP elections 2014

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Then no one would vote in them.

In that case they should just get rid of the EU parliament.  But they shouldn't do that until they do elections with european parties first.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Then no one would vote in them.

In that case they should just get rid of the EU parliament.  But they shouldn't do that until they do elections with european parties first.

Abolishing the EU parliament would be a great idea as nobody cares about it. Your other idea is absurd for that very reason.

Well a parliament is supposed to be the voice of the people.  But for the people to have a voice you need to give them something to vote on.  If the European Union ever has a real european election with pan-european parties and the people still have no interest in the election, then sure, the parliament should be abolished.

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I highly doubt Grillo would join EFD.  The Greens are a possibility.  He might also try to form his own group of non-ideological parties (UPyD from Spain might be interested?) but he will have a hard time finding parties from 7 countries.

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I enjoyed the debate, but the truth is that euroscepticism and the far-right are rising everywhere in Europe, and the fact that they refuse to participate in a debate such as this one only makes the debate less relevant.  I would have liked to see a Farage or a Le Pen even if I disagree with them 100%.

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A poll on the winner of last night's debate from europedecides.eu

Full #TellEurope poll results:
@tsipras_eu 50%
@GuyVerhofstadt 33%
@SkaKeller 10%
@MartinSchulz 5%
@JunckerEU 3%

and yet, the commission president will be either Juncker or Schulz .

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New poll from Greece (an exit poll from the municipal/periphery elections):

SYRIZA 27.4
ND 22.7
Golden Dawn 8.7
Potami 8.1
KKE 6.4
Elia 6.2
ANEL 4
DIMAR 1.4
Others 7.3
Undecided 7.8

And the exit polls for the Attica periphery:


and the Athens mayoral race:


The SYRIZA candidates as I mentioned in the predictions thread exceeded expectations while the ND candidates failed miserably.

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The top parties according to the most recent polls in each country.  If I couldn't find polls for the EU election, I used polls for the country's next national election.  If I couldn't find that either, I used the results of the most recent national election.



Blue: EPP
Red: S&D
Yellow: ALDE
Green: Greens
Dark red: EUL
Purple: EFD
Gray: EAF

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Blagohair:

Romania is coloured the wrong way, the Socialists there are way ahead in the polls.

Thanks, I couldn't find any polls for Romania.

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One vote really doesn't change anything, so strategic voting doesn't make much sense IMO.  Our vote is more of a symbolic gesture, so I would advice you to vote for whatever party you feel closer to.

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A handful of votes often do matter; ask the electors of Fermanagh and South Tyrone.

It might, but not in this case.  I doubt Pasok leader's vote will make a difference.  If he wants to vote for a small party that he agrees with, he should IMO.  It might seem like a thrown-away vote, but who knows, it might encourage others to vote for that party in another election.

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A handful of votes often do matter; ask the electors of Fermanagh and South Tyrone.

It might, but not in this case.  I doubt Pasok leader's vote will make a difference.  If he wants to vote for a small party that he agrees with, he should IMO.  It might seem like a thrown-away vote, but who knows, it might encourage others to vote for that party in another election.

If 100,000 votes matter and change the election, they're made of 100,000 times one vote, who probably asked itself who he was gonna vote for. So of course one vote do matter.

Voting certainly matters, what I'm saying is that one vote cannot determine who wins an election (unless Pasok leader can vote 100,000 times).  My point is that if those 100,000 who wanted to vote for a small party chose not to because they felt they would be throwing their vote away, then that small party would never gain traction.  I personally always vote for the party I feel closer to ideologically no matter how small it is (in 2012 I wanted Obama to win, but I voted for Stein).  It might seem like a wasted vote, but who knows maybe one day the USA Green Party will become a force, and maybe that one vote I gave it, will give them the courage to continue.