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WalterMitty
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« on: May 13, 2008, 09:00:38 PM »

Jefferson County 61% in, 49-47 Clinton

and monongalia county wasnt even competitive.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2008, 09:11:23 PM »

Jefferson's in, 49-46.

Berkeley is Obama's last chance, but if he lost Jeffco, I can't see why he wins Berkeley.  I wish Verily was still around...

i dont know the census data, but i can tell you from my many trips through berkeley county, it is very middle class.  tons of subdivisions.  very suburban, by wv standards.

he can win there or come close.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 09:21:05 PM »

Jefferson's in, 49-46.

Berkeley is Obama's last chance, but if he lost Jeffco, I can't see why he wins Berkeley.  I wish Verily was still around...

i dont know the census data, but i can tell you from my many trips through berkeley county, it is very middle class.  tons of subdivisions.  very suburban, by wv standards.

he can win there or come close.

Huh, OK.  I guess one can live real middle-class in West Virginia on the cheap.  I bet Jefferson County's MHI is inflated by the Washington, D.C., transplants.  Berkeley may be Census-poorer, but it may be culturally just as middle-class, so Obama may stand a chance.

He could still be in it.

well, i think we can now take berkeley off the table.

is it just me viewing this as a clinton supporter...but is obama under-performing in the state?
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2008, 10:26:55 PM »

i expected obama to do better in huntington, home of the marshall thundering herd.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2008, 10:59:08 PM »

if i were a democrat, id be worried.  this shows obama has a very serious problem with the white working class.

forget wv.  how the hell is he going to win pa or oh or even va if he cant do better among the blue collars?

i dont say this as a hack.  if i had to vote today. id probably vote obama over mccain.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2008, 11:11:50 PM »

if i were a democrat, id be worried.  this shows obama has a very serious problem with the white working class.

forget wv.  how the hell is he going to win pa or oh or even va if he cant do better among the blue collars?

i dont say this as a hack.  if i had to vote today. id probably vote obama over mccain.
I think it's pretty ridiculous that whites are only "working class" if they live in Appalachia. Yes, Clinton is winning white Appalachians. But Obama is winning white "working class" voters as well, in the Plains states, in the Mountain West, and states like Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin.

1.  most of those plain states had a caucus, which is completely un-democratic.  working people cant always show up at 7pm.  give them a 13 hour window. 

2.  you guys won idaho and utah...and will probably do the same in montana and south dakota.   good luck winning those states in november!  yes we can!
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2008, 11:19:55 PM »

1.  most of those plain states had a caucus, which is completely un-democratic.  working people cant always show up at 7pm.  give them a 13 hour window.

And do you think any of them would've flipped in a primary? Unlikely.

it wpuld have been closer...no doubt...OMGZ MORE DELEGATES!!11

take it from me...im an ordinary fellow...im glad mass didnt have a goddamned caucus, because i may not have been able to attend.  i do have a life...child etc.

furthermore, id prefer to cast my vote in private.  why the hell should i be forced to announce my vote to the entire precinct?
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2008, 11:44:31 PM »

brtd is so far gone that it isnt even worth arguing.

of course (the great) obama is going to win the presidency.  forget about florida, west virginia, michigan, pennsylvania  ohio/...the (great) obama is going to win virginia, georgia, and most importnatly kansas and the dakotas!!!!1333453i6u
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 01:37:41 PM »

surely brtd doesnt think southern wv counties are full of 'fake democrats'
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 01:55:57 PM »

Were there any counties where Edwards beat Obama?  Will Edwards be allocated delegates?

edwards came within 80 votes of obama in gilmer county.
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