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Mike Keller
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« on: June 18, 2016, 04:00:41 AM »

Lets suppose this ban is enacted. 

1. Who enforces it?

2. You do realize that there are millions of ARs out there right now ?

3.  follow-up to#1 ..how is it enforced?

4.  Most cops ( know personally are pro 2A) and will not comply with any act they deem unconstitutional just like they didn't with the 1994 ban.  What, now is the FBI and ATF going to go ruby ridge on everybody?    Great instead of mass shootings every year we will hear about stand-offs with American families every day.



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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2016, 01:00:53 AM »

Common sense could tell you that you don't need an assault weapon.

I'm getting really sick of this argument. Gay men don't need to have consensual butt sex. Somehow I doubt that the "need" argument would convince any gay men to oppose the outcome in Lawrence v. Texas. A right is a right irrespective of need, that's why it's a right.

Constutition gives a right to wear weapons. Not a right to wear all weapons.

With the way those folks in that club reacted (or lack thereof) he could have did just as much damage with 2 hand 9mm hand guns.  Liberals sound silly talking about firearms they know nothing about and using terms like "assault weapons" what in the hell is that?


My fav is Rep. Grayson  "shoots off 700 rounds in a minute"  oh boy...
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2016, 06:08:52 AM »

Common sense could tell you that you don't need an assault weapon.

I'm getting really sick of this argument. Gay men don't need to have consensual butt sex. Somehow I doubt that the "need" argument would convince any gay men to oppose the outcome in Lawrence v. Texas. A right is a right irrespective of need, that's why it's a right.

Constutition gives a right to wear weapons. Not a right to wear all weapons.

I think it's quite obvious that a Constitution Party avatar means fetuses and guns are more important than actual human lives. Comparing consensual sex to possession of a military-grade assault weapon is a new one, I have to admit, but you really shouldn't be too surprised.

I'd like to know why it's okay for a private citizen to own a Sigsauer MCX and not a surface-to-air missile? If you believe the former is legal and not the latter, there must be some line. What is that line and how is it in line with the Second Amendment? Unlike some of those on the right, I read the entire text of the Second Amendment, including the prefatory clause.

The Sig MCX is a carbine therefore a rife which is a type of arms, thus as it relates to the 2ND shall not be infringed upon.  Automatics(Thompson SS) have been banned since 1934 unless you owned one of the pre-banned ones which only the super rich could prob afford and or collectors.  A missile isn't something granted to you as a right to own because its not a firearm.

Fetuses are people despite the lefts love for killing the unborn and using them as spare parts.


Speaking of sex and guns.  2 guns if I could afford or the 1934 ban was ever lifted.

The Glock 18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw-o3p4ZMtE   

Beretta 93R  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1cFUJEaYrI

Pure sex right there.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2016, 01:27:49 AM »

The Sig MCX is a carbine therefore a rife which is a type of arms, thus as it relates to the 2ND shall not be infringed upon.  Automatics(Thompson SS) have been banned since 1934 unless you owned one of the pre-banned ones which only the super rich could prob afford and or collectors.  A missile isn't something granted to you as a right to own because its not a firearm.

Fetuses are people despite the lefts love for killing the unborn and using them as spare parts.

My point stands as strong as ever. The Second Amendment only relates to what has been been passed since 1934? Your arguments are not logical at all. You are saying that only guns as you define them are arms protected by the Second Amendment? In part, I do understand you. You have no problem at all with someone like Omar Mateen being able to obtain an assault weapon and massacring people you apparently have no sympathy for. If you knew any better, you would know that the Second Amendment was never intended to be for self-defense or hunting.

I'm sure people like you believe that gay sex is as deadly as an assault weapon. No, it isn't. If you believe that, you need serious help. Trump supporters like you don't give a rat's ass if gay people or Latinos die. Yeah, it was a coincidence that a mass murder was inflicted upon a gay bar on Latin Night.


Your right, it wasn't intended for Hunting, however it was intended for us NOT to be herded up like sheep and slaughtered like which took place in that Club. 


Trump supporter???    Where did you get that from?


Once again I want to know what is an "assault weapon" ?     Couldn't my right shoe smacking a liberal across the face for making silly claims like " shoots 700 bullets per minute" be an assault weapon?
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2016, 12:51:26 AM »

Can somebody summarize the arguments given thus far against banning (at the very least) the AR-15?  The only coherent (yet laughably invalid) argument I've seen is "bbut gubmint tranny!!"  Well okay, somewhat coherent.

I think the best argument is that we don't need an argument.

Convincing!

You are proposing that the government impose a limitation on a fundamental constitutional right. The burden of justifying this is on the government. It is an exceptional burden to overcome.

I'm proposing changing the constitution to rectify a problem with the earlier draft.  Just like the 21st Amendment did to the 18th.

But realistically, I guess you should be able to keep whatever handguns you need to help your rational/irrational fear for your personal safety go away.  But nobody should have an AR-15, period.  This is pure and simple common sense, and the entire world and more than half of this country is telling you that, regardless of whether you choose to listen.*

(* That should sound familiar to any Donald Trump supporters reading this!)


You know, I hope Clinton wins and appoints a couple of liberal justices on the Supreme Court that overturn Heller.




If you want to be buried with all eighteen guns after dying in whatever delusional Scarface-type fantasy you have in mind, I guess I can't stop you.  I don't personally see the appeal, but I don't have anything I feel I need to prove.  Undecided

Because why argue with someone that doesn't understand anything about the guns you are trying to argue against.

The AR-15 is basically like any other rife think the mini-14 which if you saw wouldn't think "scary".  Its semi-auto ,but so are hand guns.  Its not anymore faster ,nor is it some fully automatic rife capable of shooting hundreds of rounds in second.  Its not on par with any mil-spec M4 or M16 its a very watered down rife IMO.   

Here is a 223. Mini-14 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Mini-14#/media/File:Mini14GB.jpg  Most wouldn't think "scary assault rife"

Some people in this country may not personally see the appeal of men having sex with other men, but should those people have final say?     I don't understand why people like you on the left are fighting the against obvious here.   Islamic terror caused this not some gun because as I remembered during high school watching two airliners crash into the twin towers.  Its not about an object. 

But of course the left hates America anyway and could careless about real issues and would rather infringe upon others rights.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2016, 11:20:33 PM »

People like Joe republic and other leftists like to talk about banning "assault weapons", but continue to assault us with their lack of firearm knowledge.  Maybe we should impose a ban on high capacity mouths and low capacity brains.   

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