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« on: March 17, 2016, 03:14:18 PM »

One of the question marks around 2016 is will black voters turnout out like they did in 2008 and 2012 or return to lower levels like with Kerry or Gore. Black turnout in 2010 and 2014 was actually pretty good so there is some argument that Obama doesn't need to be on the ballot, but with Obama actively campaigning for Hillary it will certainly help.

Indeed. However, having Obama out there could also help Trump drive out the white vote. Obama's share of the white vote was only 39% in 2012, and odds are in 2016 America, his share of the white vote would fall further if he were on the ballot. I'm curious as to how bad Hillary might end up doing with the white vote if the Democratic Party continues to embrace urban rhetoric and dismiss white voters (IE Coal industry, Trump supporters, ect)

I can't see Hillary getting more than 34-35% among Whites ... which would be worse than Obama did. And that means something. Especially if many white DEM males are sitting out the election or rural ones who switch over to Trump.

Trump in general will do extremely well with Whites this year.

Of couse Latinos will be about 80-85% for Hillary, which might be enough to counter her Whites problem.

Problem is the Latino vote is is places already locked up.  NV, CA, AZ,  with Fl being the question mark. This it appears Trump a
Has some type of native son effect there... afterall he does employ Latinos illegally and legal ones for his resorts etc..

The white vote is in swing states like Ohio and possibly Michigan  then there's Pennsylvania.      If Trump can gin up the white vote at histrionic levels he could eek out a EV win.  Remember you dont need the popular vote to win.  Who cares if Hillary gets minorities to run up big numbers in already liberal states.  

The one area that Trump needs to sure up is white  working class women   this is where i cringe when he has these stupid fueds with megan kelly.   Seriously Trump acts childish some times when people attact him.    
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2016, 03:23:08 PM »

Btw this could backfire.   This may be the one thing that stops the Gop from fighting eachother and unit behind Trump.  They hate Obama more than Hillary.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2016, 03:29:01 PM »

how many times do we have to go through this "oh noes heavens falling the DEMS are losing the working class whites...'

Let Trump have the white working class - he will sink with college educated whites; women; African-American's and Hispanics.

Ask yourself, with what coalition beyond working class whites does Trump connect with, in the REPUB primary? i suppose he does relatively well with evangelicals, moderate REPUBS and the white working class. He is doing nothing to expand this coalition, and with his tone, rhetoric and behavior alienating the same groups that Hillary is courting.

How many more white working class people can you find in Ohio, PA and MI to flip him the state?

All of them.    Remember hes also getting people who generally dont vote.   You do realize that voter turn out for elections is not 100% ?  
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2016, 03:46:38 PM »

how many times do we have to go through this "oh noes heavens falling the DEMS are losing the working class whites...'

Let Trump have the white working class - he will sink with college educated whites; women; African-American's and Hispanics.

Ask yourself, with what coalition beyond working class whites does Trump connect with, in the REPUB primary? i suppose he does relatively well with evangelicals, moderate REPUBS and the white working class. He is doing nothing to expand this coalition, and with his tone, rhetoric and behavior alienating the same groups that Hillary is courting.

How many more white working class people can you find in Ohio, PA and MI to flip him the state?

All of them.    Remember hes also getting people who generally dont vote.   You do realize that voter turn out for elections is not 100% ?  

no evidence that Trump is registering new voters...I would argue he would be one of the weakest general election candidates in a very long time..no ground operation or data analytics; he def wouldn't self-fund and if he didn't, well, he would go back on his word about special interests and pacs - and if he did, he wouldn't be able to outraise and outspend hillary at this late date; essentially, he is going to use twitter, instagram and facebook to try and win an election...all 6.8 million of his twitter followers are waiting with baited breath

He would take the RNC money I'd suspect.    Thats good enough and wouldn't hurt him amongst is supporters he can say look i self funded myself to get here so the special interest did teally have much to do with anything. 

Your right about the organization hes running a 20th century campaign minus the twitter  .
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