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« on: May 06, 2021, 07:58:35 PM »
« edited: May 06, 2021, 08:17:04 PM by Abdullah »

How heartbreaking, she's literally a 12 year old and she was going around on a killing spree.

How could this specific case realistically have been prevented though?

I mean, from what we know, this girl almost certainly took her father's unattended gun and used that to shoot up the school, It's not like a background check thing can solve this specific case (no doubt it could for others though). Like should there be laws enforcing parents to keep guns away from certain kids' reach (those with mental health problems or those under a certain age) unless they're supervised? (it sounds like a good idea to me TBH) And how do we enforce those hypothetical laws? (serious question) Or maybe more investment in mental health services for troubled kids as well?

Also, I've no doubt that this person was inspired by other school shooters. It's clearly a vicious cycle, and I hate that it's been so nornalized. No doubt the media'll have 24/7 coverage of this girl and her face everywhere (especially her because "oh wow she's so young!"), and this sensationalization could possibly inspire someone else of a disturbed mental condition and a young age who wants attention to commit a similar crime.

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A female teacher disarmed the girl and held her until law enforcement arrived and took her into custody, authorities said, without giving other details.

The true MVP. Who knows how many lives this person saved.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2021, 08:09:15 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2021, 08:24:03 PM by Abdullah »


There obviously has to be some kind of balance between literally banning all guns and our current situation. There are valid reasons to own a gun (maybe not where you live, but definitely in other parts of the country), and in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns yet they don't have school shootings at this scale.

Like seriously, thoughts and prayers is not enough, this is an epidemic and a disease, and we need to attack it as one.

Agreed
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2021, 11:46:35 AM »
« Edited: May 07, 2021, 11:52:14 AM by Abdullah »

There are valid reasons to own a gun (maybe not where you live, but definitely in other parts of the country), and in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns yet they don't have school shootings at this scale.
Can you list what countries allowed to own guns easy like the US?

Perhaps you misunderstood me, but I was speaking about my opinion of the idea that we should literally ban all guns from private usage, which S019 implied in his comment and which (if my memory serves me correctly) he has supported in the past.

Also, I did not say that in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns easily (nor did I ever state it should be that way). I said that in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns as private citizens. Here are some examples (out of the thirty most populated countries where people are allowed to own handguns as private citizens):

  • India
  • The United States
  • Pakistan
  • Brazil
  • Mexico
  • Ethiopia
  • The Philippines
  • Egypt
  • Viet Nam
  • The Democratic Republic of the Congo
  • Turkey
  • Germany
  • France
  • Thailand
  • South Africa
  • Italy (!!!) (In fact, no valid reason's needed, just a permit)
  • Colombia
  • Kenya
  • Spain

Now, obviously, the United States is very unique as in a permit is not required to receive a handgun in most U.S. states. I never said it should be this way, though, and I do think that it'd be a good idea to slightly restrict gun usage to the level where people are required to get a permit in order to own a gun. In fact, I said, in the sentence that you cut off from my quote, that "There obviously has to be some kind of balance between literally banning all guns and our current situation."
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