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TheReckoning
Junior Chimp
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« on: August 03, 2022, 04:21:05 PM »

Every single party and every single lawmaker in any NATO country that votes against admission of Sweden and Finland needs to be called out in the starkest terms. They're either Putin's arm or just useful idiots to the Kremlin.

The United States pays way more into NATO than it gets out of it. A vast majority of countries in NATO are refusing to raise the defense budgets up to 2% of GDP, despite pledging to do so earlier. Some people feel like NATO is a scam to the United States, and they just may be right.
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TheReckoning
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2022, 05:37:37 PM »

Every single party and every single lawmaker in any NATO country that votes against admission of Sweden and Finland needs to be called out in the starkest terms. They're either Putin's arm or just useful idiots to the Kremlin.

The United States pays way more into NATO than it gets out of it. A vast majority of countries in NATO are refusing to raise the defense budgets up to 2% of GDP, despite pledging to do so earlier. Some people feel like NATO is a scam to the United States, and they just may be right.

NATO isn't a trade agreement lol, it's a mechanism to keep Europe peaceful and prosperous, which is a huge benefit to the US.

Is it worth dumping in billions upon billions of dollars into, when other countries have made it clear that they aren’t going to hold up their end of the bargain since they’re expecting the USA to foot the bill?

I’m not against NATO or Finland and Sweden joining it, but they’re legitimate concerns with the way NATO currently operates.
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TheReckoning
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2022, 09:17:30 PM »

Every single party and every single lawmaker in any NATO country that votes against admission of Sweden and Finland needs to be called out in the starkest terms. They're either Putin's arm or just useful idiots to the Kremlin.

The United States pays way more into NATO than it gets out of it. A vast majority of countries in NATO are refusing to raise the defense budgets up to 2% of GDP, despite pledging to do so earlier. Some people feel like NATO is a scam to the United States, and they just may be right.

The US is the only country that has ever cashed in on Article 5.

And yet, we lost the war anyways.
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TheReckoning
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2023, 03:33:09 PM »

The best outcome is probably Erdogan going down in the election and his replacement okaying Sweden and Finland and then kick out Hungary as a trade

And have a Russian ally right in the heart of Europe?

Surely can’t go wrong there!
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TheReckoning
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2023, 03:42:51 PM »

The best outcome is probably Erdogan going down in the election and his replacement okaying Sweden and Finland and then kick out Hungary as a trade

And have a Russian ally right in the heart of Europe?

Surely can’t go wrong there!
They are already. Might as well rob them of there veto ability inside NATO

Not every right of center government is pro-Putin. But kicking Orban out of NATO will only push them more in that direction.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2023, 05:28:38 PM »

Hopefully one day, Russia can be added to NATO too, once it’s proven trustworthy.
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