Unlike Texas, New York has an anti-gerrymandering provision in its Constitution. And unlike Florida the map did not look clean or compact.
Can we put this talking point to rest already? You'd think every online conservative is on DeSantis's payroll. FL-14 is obviously not clean or compact, neither is FL-07 frankly.
Florida's map is very compact for the most part, actually. Now, if you want a map that's not clean or compact, just look at Illinois
Every conservative talking about redistricting has a dialogue tree. Clean and compact, partisan fairness is fake, counties don't matter, water doesn't matter except when it does, let's start talking about Illinois now.
Yes, because a district that goes from Danville to Hyde Park is the epitome of fairness.
1) We can’t have ‘fair’ federal maps until everyone has fair maps.
It’s not like the house of Reps is only from Illinois or New York or whatever. If one state is draws maps to favor their majority party and the other draws maps to be representative, what you’ve done is created an aggregate map that favors the dominant party in the former state.
2) You’ve accidentally stumbled ass backwards into a better question. Is not more fair to run an ugly looking district from eg the Metro-East to Springfield and combine them into a single urban centers district rather than have all three drown out by the rural hinterlands? Congressmen represent people not trees, and I think it’s fair to assume that the voters of Belleville and Springfield will have more influence over their local congressman than they did in their old districts. Community of interest should trump compactness, as the later doesn’t really mean much other than making maps look pretty.