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BudgieForce
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« on: March 27, 2018, 07:44:30 AM »

Obviously Democrats should do everything in their power to temporarily defund and/or otherwise prevent the formal Census survey from being rolled out until after January 2021, at which point a Democratic administration will need to double-time and double-fund efforts to have it completed by the 2022 elections.
I don't think that is allowed constitutionally.

Dems don't care.

Neither do republicans anymore.
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2018, 08:08:10 AM »

California has already sued. 95% chance in the next couple of weeks there will be an injunction that will stop this. Honestly, even a conservative judge would rule against this question.
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2018, 08:39:39 AM »

Oh, also, republicans shouldn't want this either. Undercounting immigrants will also effect red states. Immigrants don't respond and Texas won't gain 3 congressional seats.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2018, 10:09:06 AM »

Oh, also, republicans shouldn't want this either. Undercounting immigrants will also effect red states. Immigrants don't respond and Texas won't gain 3 congressional seats.

A big part of this is probably Republicans wanting citizenship data so they can draw maps based on citizens only, as opposed to adult population. There was a lawsuit in 2016 or 2017 regarding this. They sued to try and force redistricting to be based on citizens (or at least let states choose), and I think part of the rationale against it was that the census doesn't have full citizenship data - only from the ACS.

So it could end up being much worse, even with Texas maybe getting a lower count.

Wouldn't that require a vote in the Senate?
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2018, 11:15:24 AM »

Not sure how accurate this guy is but someone on Twitter did the calculations for seat appointments in 2020 with less Hispanic responses.
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So pretty much a wash.

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2018, 10:28:55 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2018, 10:32:28 PM by superbudgie1582 »

California has already sued. 95% chance in the next couple of weeks there will be an injunction that will stop this. Honestly, even a conservative judge would rule against this question.

Actually, no. I doubt the suit will succeed. The reason given is plaus even tho I have doubts as to its motivation.

I'm just an armchair lawyer who read multiple Twitter accounts saying there is merit to this suit. What does "plaus" mean by the way?

Edit: I doubt anybody truly believes the Trump administration is doing this because of the Voting rights act.
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