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« on: August 25, 2020, 08:35:58 AM »

RCP: Even though the poll was scientifcally performed, it's a Democratic pollster--so we won't include it in our averages.  We don't want bias.

Once again, I don't understand the dislike on here for Real Clear Politics. But I digress.

People just want a clean aggregate. 538 is better now since they launched their polling averages page, but RCP will quite often include R pollsters but not include D pollsters. They literally included the OANN Gravis polls but wouldn't add Morning Consult or PPP polls, amongst others.

Not only that, they won't even reveal what their criteria actually are for including polls in the aggregate (people like Harry Enten and Nate Cohn have tried to find out from RCP).  This says to me that the criteria are arbitrary and subjective.  No, thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2020, 09:21:02 AM »

RCP: Even though the poll was scientifcally performed, it's a Democratic pollster--so we won't include it in our averages.  We don't want bias.

Once again, I don't understand the dislike on here for Real Clear Politics. But I digress.

People just want a clean aggregate. 538 is better now since they launched their polling averages page, but RCP will quite often include R pollsters but not include D pollsters. They literally included the OANN Gravis polls but wouldn't add Morning Consult or PPP polls, amongst others.

Not only that, they won't even reveal what their criteria actually are for including polls in the aggregate (people like Harry Enten and Nate Cohn have tried to find out from RCP).  This says to me that the criteria are arbitrary and subjective.  No, thanks.

They're also not including polls from pollsters they were including in their 2016 average 6 like Reuters/Ipsos and USC Dornslife. It's very disappointing how often it's still used as a go-to aggregate for more casual followers.

TBF, USC still hasn't released topline numbers for that poll, so it's not showing up in anyone's aggregate yet.
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2020, 05:57:42 PM »

Is there a reason we seem to get such an excess of unnecessary NY polls every election?  FL is obvious and DE can appear semi-competitive depending on the cycle, but NY is never interesting despite being polled so often.

Siena would poll NY regularly, which makes sense since it's their home state.  But it does seem odd for PPP to be polling there.
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